C20 Front brake drum removal - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

nolimitssjca · 08-25-2013, 10:38 PM

Tried removing the front brake drum but this drum has 2 flat head screws in it.

I tried:

Heat
Lubricant
Impact screwdriver
Chisel (break loose the rust)

They won't budge. Any ideas? Can I drill them out? If so can I find replacements?

68gmsee · 08-25-2013, 11:07 PM

Try drilling them out. Probably don't need to replace them since lug nuts hold them on. Maybe remove the front wheel bearing and see if you can pull the whole thing off.

*Mister-B* · 08-26-2013, 12:49 AM

Yeah, pull the cap cover off, straighten and remove the pin, then pull off the bearing and the whole thing should slide off. It happened on mine when TBone and I replaced my front brakes.
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cdowns · 08-26-2013, 07:13 AM

original drums are rivited in place from the factory on the hubs and need to b drilled out in order to remove the drum from the hubs

**TBONE1964** · 08-26-2013, 08:15 AM

Are you replacing the drums?

If yes, then you need to find a way to remove the screws. It sounds like it is time for the drill.

If you are not replacing the drums then as Mister-B mentioned, pull the drum and hub together.

**TBONE1964** · 08-26-2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

original drums are rivited in place from the factory on the hubs and need to b drilled out in order to remove the drum from the hubs

True but not on a C/20

Orange67 · 08-26-2013, 10:04 AM

Whoa guys! no drilling required on a C20. What you need is what they call an "impact driver", to remove those flathead screws. Sears will be your best bet. They are still a bugger to get out, but take your time, make sure you don't strip them out, or you WILL have to drill them out. Basically what an impact driver does, you push the screw tip in and twist the direction you need to turn the screw, and hit it with a hammer. All four corners of a C20 will have these flathead screws.

sboris · 08-26-2013, 10:15 AM

I think he tried the impact.. ^^

Just pull the whole hub as mentioned. I did mine with relative ease, but that was several years ago, 16 years newer.
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Orange67 · 08-26-2013, 10:48 AM

LOL sorry nolimit, somehow I missed the "impact screwdriver" in your list..... yikes, I guess either pull the assembly off or drill the heads off as mentioned. guess I better stick to "baffling them with bull".....

sboris · 08-26-2013, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange67

LOL sorry nolimit, somehow I missed the "impact screwdriver" in your list..... yikes, I guess either pull the assembly off or drill the heads off as mentioned. guess I better stick to "baffling them with bull".....

Lol. Hey I read over stuff all the time. Maybe my eyes need checked? Nah..
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nolimitssjca · 08-26-2013, 11:02 AM

I was hoping to put new shoes on and call it a day. If I pull the hub isn't the drum still attached?

heyjoe · 08-26-2013, 11:25 AM

I say the following as a long time C20 owner.
If you are just replacing shoes then there is no need to separate drum from hub. Pull the hub and drum as one unit. You will be able to clean and inspect the wheel bearings & races. Then repack with grease, install and adjust.

68gmsee · 08-26-2013, 11:30 AM

^ Yes.

If drums need turning take the whole asm in to a machine shop. Usually they can drill the screws out for a little extra.

nolimitssjca · 08-26-2013, 11:41 AM

Now we're making progress!

**TBONE1964** · 08-26-2013, 11:46 AM

Progress and Education

If the drums need to be machined it is best to leave them mounted to the hub. The shop can mount a drum/hub assembly the same way they mount a rotor with a built in hub. This will insure the least amount of run out for the assembly.

PanelDeland · 08-26-2013, 03:45 PM

I've even seen guys pull the hub/drum/tire/wheel all in one piece to change shoes on one that wasn't too worn.I don't recall if it was a 67-72 but I believe the adjuster holes were in the backing plates and accessible with the tire/wheel on.

nolimitssjca · 02-15-2014, 04:09 PM

I know this thread is old but I figured I should finish it off.

Back in the 70's I helped my dad change the brake shoes on his C10. As most of you know the wheel comes off and the drum comes off (straight forward).

What is different about the C20 is the wheel comes off, then you remove the dust cover, wheel bearing nut, and that releases the bearing and drum together.

I remember dad struggling with pliers and screw drivers to put springs back on. Having the right brake tools makes the job MUCH easier.

I still need to do the rear brakes but knowing the C20 process is different is worth noting.

08-25-2013, 10:38 PM	#1
nolimitssjca Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 69	C20 Front brake drum removal Tried removing the front brake drum but this drum has 2 flat head screws in it. I tried: Heat Lubricant Impact screwdriver Chisel (break loose the rust) They won't budge. Any ideas? Can I drill them out? If so can I find replacements?

08-25-2013, 11:07 PM	#2
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal Try drilling them out. Probably don't need to replace them since lug nuts hold them on. Maybe remove the front wheel bearing and see if you can pull the whole thing off. __________________ 68 GMC 250/3 speed Saginaw p/b p/s 69 Chevy 350/350 currently in pieces still lookin for a cab 06 Trailblazer I just want a vehicle that I can work on, that won't talk to me, leave error msgs or keep track of how I drive...

08-26-2013, 12:49 AM	#3
Mister-B Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,331	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal Yeah, pull the cap cover off, straighten and remove the pin, then pull off the bearing and the whole thing should slide off. It happened on mine when TBone and I replaced my front brakes. Posted via Mobile Device

08-26-2013, 07:13 AM	#4
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal original drums are rivited in place from the factory on the hubs and need to b drilled out in order to remove the drum from the hubs __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

08-26-2013, 08:15 AM	#5
TBONE1964 Cluster King Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Junction City, OR Posts: 5,263	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal Are you replacing the drums? If yes, then you need to find a way to remove the screws. It sounds like it is time for the drill. If you are not replacing the drums then as Mister-B mentioned, pull the drum and hub together.

08-26-2013, 10:04 AM	#7
Orange67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Syracuse, Utah Posts: 499	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal Whoa guys! no drilling required on a C20. What you need is what they call an "impact driver", to remove those flathead screws. Sears will be your best bet. They are still a bugger to get out, but take your time, make sure you don't strip them out, or you WILL have to drill them out. Basically what an impact driver does, you push the screw tip in and twist the direction you need to turn the screw, and hit it with a hammer. All four corners of a C20 will have these flathead screws. __________________ Justin '67 C20 CST Custom Camper '04.5 LLY Duramax CCSB...sold

08-26-2013, 10:15 AM	#8
sboris Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Osceola, Ia Posts: 2,017	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal I think he tried the impact.. ^^ Just pull the whole hub as mentioned. I did mine with relative ease, but that was several years ago, 16 years newer. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Shawn 68 chevy K/20 05 chevy 3/4 4x4 71 short step-sold 71 chevy Beauville van My build. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=633039

08-26-2013, 10:48 AM	#9
Orange67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Syracuse, Utah Posts: 499	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal LOL sorry nolimit, somehow I missed the "impact screwdriver" in your list..... yikes, I guess either pull the assembly off or drill the heads off as mentioned. guess I better stick to "baffling them with bull"..... __________________ Justin '67 C20 CST Custom Camper '04.5 LLY Duramax CCSB...sold

08-26-2013, 11:02 AM	#11
nolimitssjca Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 69	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal I was hoping to put new shoes on and call it a day. If I pull the hub isn't the drum still attached?

08-26-2013, 11:25 AM	#12
heyjoe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Orleans area Posts: 198	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal I say the following as a long time C20 owner. If you are just replacing shoes then there is no need to separate drum from hub. Pull the hub and drum as one unit. You will be able to clean and inspect the wheel bearings & races. Then repack with grease, install and adjust.

08-26-2013, 11:30 AM	#13
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal ^ Yes. If drums need turning take the whole asm in to a machine shop. Usually they can drill the screws out for a little extra. __________________ 68 GMC 250/3 speed Saginaw p/b p/s 69 Chevy 350/350 currently in pieces still lookin for a cab 06 Trailblazer I just want a vehicle that I can work on, that won't talk to me, leave error msgs or keep track of how I drive...

08-26-2013, 11:41 AM	#14
nolimitssjca Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 69	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal Now we're making progress!

08-26-2013, 11:46 AM	#15
TBONE1964 Cluster King Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Junction City, OR Posts: 5,263	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal Progress and Education If the drums need to be machined it is best to leave them mounted to the hub. The shop can mount a drum/hub assembly the same way they mount a rotor with a built in hub. This will insure the least amount of run out for the assembly.

08-26-2013, 03:45 PM	#16
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,992	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal I've even seen guys pull the hub/drum/tire/wheel all in one piece to change shoes on one that wasn't too worn.I don't recall if it was a 67-72 but I believe the adjuster holes were in the backing plates and accessible with the tire/wheel on. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

02-15-2014, 04:09 PM	#17
nolimitssjca Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 69	Re: C20 Front brake drum removal I know this thread is old but I figured I should finish it off. Back in the 70's I helped my dad change the brake shoes on his C10. As most of you know the wheel comes off and the drum comes off (straight forward). What is different about the C20 is the wheel comes off, then you remove the dust cover, wheel bearing nut, and that releases the bearing and drum together. I remember dad struggling with pliers and screw drivers to put springs back on. Having the right brake tools makes the job MUCH easier. I still need to do the rear brakes but knowing the C20 process is different is worth noting.



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