The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-15-2014, 01:28 AM   #1
cjlloyd81
Registered User
 
cjlloyd81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 58
Clutch issue

About a week ago my tranny started getting harder and harder to get into/out of gear (i.e shifting, or going into reverse after coming to a stop). No leaks from the master cylinder, tho fluid level was low so I topped it off (didn't have time to diagnose it at the time).

When in gear the truck pulls hard with no slipping so the clutch itself is good, and being that there's no leakage from the master cylinder I'm wanting to condemn the slave. I'm gonna get under the truck in the morning and look for telltale signs down there.

If it ends up being the slave what advice do yall have on bleeding/installing one? The only manual vehicles I've driven have had linkage clutches so this whole hydraulic thing is a new area for me and I'd rather ask for advice before I beat my head off the driveway trying to figure it out on my own

Thanks everyone!

-Chris
__________________
1966 Dorsett Daytona - 16'6" Fiberglass boat "Suits Us"
1972 Chevrolet P30 Motorhome - "Giddy Up Go"
1986 GMC C3500 High Sierra Custom - "Ruby"
2007 Chevrolet Avalanche - "Faith"
cjlloyd81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 09:45 AM   #2
80SPORT
Registered User
 
80SPORT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: red deer alberta
Posts: 777
Re: Clutch issue

Replace both master and slave.....bleed assembly before installing

It will be good for another 25 years.
80SPORT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 09:13 PM   #3
silverbear
Registered User
 
silverbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Glen St. Mary, Florida
Posts: 304
Re: Clutch issue

While you are inspecting the slave cylinder take a look at the divet where the cylinder rod pushes against the clutch fork. I was having an issue with my clutch not disengaging between gears. Due to years of build up I didn't notice my clutch fork had a hole in it, so the rod was pushing through instead of disengaging. I ended up having to drop my trans to fix everything. Hopefully you will have better luck.
__________________
86 Chevrolet K10 350/SM465 Frankie SOLD
1995 GMC Yukon GT SOLD
1996 GMC Yukon GT
2010 Suburban 1500 4x4 5.3l/6L80e. Sold
2016 Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab 4x4 6.0l/6L80e
silverbear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2014, 09:20 PM   #4
cjlloyd81
Registered User
 
cjlloyd81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 58
Re: Clutch issue

Got the old master n slaves out. New ones in tho my pedal pusher just bailed on me. Grrr....

The fork looks great... greasy (not anymore) but solid. The old slave I could push with no effort at all. And it was leaking like a civ.
__________________
1966 Dorsett Daytona - 16'6" Fiberglass boat "Suits Us"
1972 Chevrolet P30 Motorhome - "Giddy Up Go"
1986 GMC C3500 High Sierra Custom - "Ruby"
2007 Chevrolet Avalanche - "Faith"
cjlloyd81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 11:29 AM   #5
Tucson38
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tucson Arizona
Posts: 164
Re: Clutch issue

If you bleed your slave cylinder on the truck, you have to loosen it up then tilt it to bleed. You won't get the air out in the stock position.
Tucson38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2014, 12:55 AM   #6
cjlloyd81
Registered User
 
cjlloyd81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Medford, OR
Posts: 58
Re: Clutch issue

Well it was fairly painless all in all. Slight learning curve (and kinda obvious when I think about it) that bleeding the master cylinder that when you go to install it after bleeding it... fluid goes everywhere till you get the line hooked up. Just FYI lol. God bless simple green!

On the slave I was able to bleed it installed using a rubber hose and a drain pan (and a pedal pusher). Took a while but thats probably because the process (I think) undid my bench bleeding of the master, and all the air in the line between master/slave didn't help anything I'm sure. So an hour or so of pedal pushing and bleeding finally got a solid stream of fluid out of the bleed valve on the slave.

End result: Clutch actually works (it's amazing how much better it drives with a fully functioning clutch huh? who'da thunk it!)

Thanks everyone
__________________
1966 Dorsett Daytona - 16'6" Fiberglass boat "Suits Us"
1972 Chevrolet P30 Motorhome - "Giddy Up Go"
1986 GMC C3500 High Sierra Custom - "Ruby"
2007 Chevrolet Avalanche - "Faith"
cjlloyd81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2014, 01:19 AM   #7
1774btcrew
Senior Member
 
1774btcrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Phoenix AZ
Posts: 4,603
Re: Clutch issue

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjlloyd81 View Post
Well it was fairly painless all in all. Slight learning curve (and kinda obvious when I think about it) that bleeding the master cylinder that when you go to install it after bleeding it... fluid goes everywhere till you get the line hooked up. Just FYI lol. God bless simple green!

On the slave I was able to bleed it installed using a rubber hose and a drain pan (and a pedal pusher). Took a while but thats probably because the process (I think) undid my bench bleeding of the master, and all the air in the line between master/slave didn't help anything I'm sure. So an hour or so of pedal pushing and bleeding finally got a solid stream of fluid out of the bleed valve on the slave.

End result: Clutch actually works (it's amazing how much better it drives with a fully functioning clutch huh? who'da thunk it!)

Thanks everyone

While it seems to work good it may be possible to get it to work even better. Look up under the dash where the clutch master cylinder hooks to the clutch pedal. Remove the clip and slide the rod off the pedal. Look for this piece to be grooved. This happens to the pedals after a lot of miles. If this is the case remove the clutch pedal only and have the groove in it welded up. Grind and file smooth. The hole in the rod for the clutch master cylinder may also be ovalized if this is case replace the master cylinder. It will make a big difference as this causes the slave cylinder rod not to push as far. I sell a lot of these hydraulic set ups to my customers and always repair these before shipping out.
__________________
AZPartsLocators on Instagram

1972 Cheyenne Super Short Bed big block "Blackie"
1977 Crew Cab GMC Short bed with 4BT Intercooled Cummins Diesel and a 4L80e "The Junkyard Dog"
1985 Crew Cab Chevy dually with 5.9 Cummins "The Big Dog" This is what my dad liked to be called by the grandkids before he passed so it seems fitting for his old truck.
1774btcrew is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com