Drop Spindle....?

[MILLER TIME]

I am between the LMC drop spindle and the CPP modular drop spindle,

The LMC is 259$
2.5 inch drop
Uses stock joints and tierod
One piece design where caliper bolts
Claims to narrow track width 3/4" each side?

The CPP #CP30106-4 is 299$
2 inch drop
Uses stock joints and tierod
Claim to narrow the track width at least 1 1/8" between both sides
Uses a bracket to mount brakes that cost 75$ additionally...

If anyone has used the LMC spindle and can confirm that it actually does provide the additional tire clearance please comment because it seems to be the better deal especially when I have a gift card to Lmc but just not sure if I can trust there measurements bc I haven't been able to speak to anyone with them that can actually talk about there spindles...

[MILLER TIME]

Any input is much appreciated! Thanks for reading.

[lolife99]

No one,... not even CPP has proven EXACTLY how much their spindles move in and compared to what?
I still challenge any suspension company to put the numbers down with associated pics to prove it.

Their Drop spindles compared to what?
1) Drum brake spindles?
2) 71-87 disc brake spindles?
3) other brands of drop spindles?

They need to:
1) Make a jig
2) install each different version of spindle
3) Measure to the "wheel mounting surface"
If they would do that,... then you would know.

I still say,... install your suspension,... and then install wheels and tire to fit.
Not the other way around.
Drop springs also affect these numbers, because they change the angle of the lower a-arm, thus pushing the spindle out as the spring gets shorter.

[MILLER TIME]

I believe your right. Just too hard to try and do wheel and tire before suspension is complete. This is my first big project, and I'm kind of learning as I go.

I have a Porterbuilt front dropmember so track width will be narrowed an inch and a half each side anyways but I'm planning on running the dodge steel 20's I bought a while back with those ****ty adapters and I thought if I could get a narrowed spindle as well it would ensure that I could lay out on those wheels and adapters...

[Tx Firefighter]

You can save real money by ordering from Summit. Free shipping. They have CPP spindles for 230 and DJM for the same price. That's to your door price. LMC is gonna really whack you with shipping charges on top of their price.

Personally I'd run the DJM because they are a 3 inch drop rather than 2.5. I have them on my truck and like them.

[mgchevyparts]

Originally Posted by lolife99

No one,... not even CPP has proven EXACTLY how much their spindles move in and compared to what?
I still challenge any suspension company to put the numbers down with associated pics to prove it.

Their Drop spindles compared to what?
1) Drum brake spindles?
2) 71-87 disc brake spindles?
3) other brands of drop spindles?

They need to:
1) Make a jig
2) install each different version of spindle
3) Measure to the "wheel mounting surface"
If they would do that,... then you would know.

I still say,... install your suspension,... and then install wheels and tire to fit.
Not the other way around.
Drop springs also affect these numbers, because they change the angle of the lower a-arm, thus pushing the spindle out as the spring gets shorter.

Good to see someone understands the BS that is put out there

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by mgchevyparts

Good to see someone understands the BS that is put out there

I would build the jig if I had all versions of drop spindles to compare.
Right now all I just have a set of Belltech 73-87 drop spindles.
I have Light Duty and HD rotors also.
We need to put an end to all the "supposed" facts .

[MILLER TIME]

Well I appreciate the insight, going to do a little bit more research and order a pair Monday.

[LostMy65]

Any updates?
.
I think also read somewhere that the latest modular spindles - the ones they call "New and Improved" - now have the caliper mount cast in.
Is is it true we don't need to buy the caliper mounting bracket anymore?

[LostMy65]

???

[truckfan]

lurking

[Lost81c10]

Originally Posted by LostMy65

Any updates?
.
I think also read somewhere that the latest modular spindles - the ones they call "New and Improved" - now have the caliper mount cast in.
Is is it true we don't need to buy the caliper mounting bracket anymore?

Don't know if the Question is in reference to the cpp but I got the 2.5 (1 1/4) last year for my 85 and did not have to get any extra brackets for the calipers. Hope this helps in your question.

Mando

[LostMy65]

The Modular are only a 2" drop.
2.5" drop are the regular cpp spindles that have the caliper ears cast in.

[Lost81c10]

I see. Sorry about that.

[LostMy65]

Hey, thanks for trying to help out.

[jrfonte]

Not sure if this helps but just ordered these about 2 weeks ago and installed them with no issues other than having to clearance the lower a arm for the 15x10 wheels to fit back on. They were around 170.00.

[CircusWagonJim]

More confused now. Do you need to buy seperate caliper brackets for the DJM spindles?

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by CircusWagonJim

More confused now. Do you need to buy seperate caliper brackets for the DJM spindles?

Not that I know of.
Should be the standard spindle design.
Only the CPP modular spindles use a separate caliper bracket.

[jjzepplin]

Originally Posted by jrfonte

Not sure if this helps but just ordered these about 2 weeks ago and installed them with no issues other than having to clearance the lower a arm for the 15x10 wheels to fit back on. They were around 170.00.

Do they make these for the 1.25" HD rotors?

[jrfonte]

Originally Posted by jjzepplin

Do they make these for the 1.25" HD rotors?

Yes they had those for the 1 1/4 hd rotors.
If I would have known when I bought them that I could covert my brakes to the bigger size so easily I would have bought them because I replaced everything spindles calipers rotors and shoes. didnt know all that was required to just buy the new 1.25" parts. And swap the mc to the hd version. Would have worked better with my rear disc conversion i think.

[1977cheyenne_C10]

is that brand CTS good? never heard of them