The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-23-2014, 01:18 AM   #1
barmanvarn
Registered User
 
barmanvarn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Sherwood, AR
Posts: 189
Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

Working to revive my Dad's '69 GMC C15.

At some point, he went to a modern filter. When he did this, he simply cut the line coming out of the valve cover and plugged the remaining 3" of line.

He and I have a different approach to these sorts of things. Personally, having a 3", plugged hose coming out the side of the valve cover is driving me nuts.

What is he best way to remove this hose for a cleaner look? Is there something I can use to plug the hole in the valve cover? I'm assuming I can buy a new valve cover that doesn't have this hold but don't want to spend that money just yet.

thanks
barmanvarn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2014, 09:38 AM   #2
DPowers
One foot in front of the other
 
DPowers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Parrottsville, TN
Posts: 5,441
Re: Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

Why not just put a push in breather in place of the hose?
DPowers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2014, 11:46 AM   #3
barmanvarn
Registered User
 
barmanvarn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Sherwood, AR
Posts: 189
Re: Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

Quote:
Originally Posted by DPowers View Post
Why not just put a push in breather in place of the hose?
I'm a complete newbie here so I'm not 100% clear on your suggestion.

Are you talking about a push-in breather on the opening in the side of the valve cover? Is there a reason to do this over plugging/removing the hole entirely?

Thanks
barmanvarn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2014, 11:59 AM   #4
piecesparts
Parts and more parts
 
piecesparts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere
Posts: 6,821
Re: Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

I personally go out of my way to keep the PCV setup close to what it was in the original setup. An external breather in the valve cover will let oily vapors escape and then you have a mess on your engine, all of the time. Where as if you run a hose to the bottom of the custom air cleaner, as many have connections to do so, then the escaping vapors are drawn into the carb intake.

The whole design of the PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) is to have a vacuum connection on one valve cover and a clean air connection on the other to keep the crankcase swept clear of vapors from heating the oil in that crankcase. It also helps the engine purge itself and to run more efficiently.
__________________
Frank
piecesparts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2014, 12:03 PM   #5
barmanvarn
Registered User
 
barmanvarn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Sherwood, AR
Posts: 189
Re: Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

Quote:
Originally Posted by piecesparts View Post
I personally go out of my way to keep the PCV setup close to what it was in the original setup. An external breather in the valve cover will let oily vapors escape and then you have a mess on your engine, all of the time. Where as if you run a hose to the bottom of the custom air cleaner, as many have connections to do so, then the escaping vapors are drawn into the carb intake.

The whole design of the PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) is to have a vacuum connection on one valve cover and a clean air connection on the other to keep the crankcase swept clear of vapors from heating the oil in that crankcase. It also helps the engine purge itself and to run more efficiently.

That makes sense and I do like that idea. I just didn't like seeing that hose stub sticking out the side of the valve cover. LOL

This is all new to me so I'm still learning.

Not to go off-topic but there is also a hose coming off the top/rear of the valve cover. The truck is an hour away so I can't go out and look....what is the purpose of that hose?

thanks for the assistance folks
barmanvarn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2014, 12:30 PM   #6
RichardJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,423
Re: Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

Fresh, clean, filtered air from the air cleaner enters the crankcase through that cut off stub. The air mixes with the crankcase fumes, blow-by past the rings, moisture from condensation create during every cold/heat startup. These contaminants are drawn through the PCV valve into the intake manifold and burned up.
A push-in filter would work, but no one ever cleans or replaces them. Drawing air from the carb air filter has the advantage of better filtration and they usually get changed when dirty.
__________________
'67 GMC 2500, 292, 4spd, AC
RichardJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2014, 12:38 PM   #7
barmanvarn
Registered User
 
barmanvarn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Sherwood, AR
Posts: 189
Re: Getting rid of oil bath air cleaner

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardJ View Post
Fresh, clean, filtered air from the air cleaner enters the crankcase through that cut off stub. The air mixes with the crankcase fumes, blow-by past the rings, moisture from condensation create during every cold/heat startup. These contaminants are drawn through the PCV valve into the intake manifold and burned up.
A push-in filter would work, but no one ever cleans or replaces them. Drawing air from the carb air filter has the advantage of better filtration and they usually get changed when dirty.
More great info. Thanks!
barmanvarn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com