Ignition systems.....Which way to go? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

sam's 72 · 01-28-2004, 06:21 PM

I want to get a complete Ignition for my truck. The 383 will be in the truck in about a month. I want to go on ahead and set up a good ignition in it now for the 383 thats comming.
I am stuck between a MSD, Mallory or http://www.davessmallbodyheis.com/

So as usuial I am turning to you guys to help me out. I want the electronic, but I don't want to go with one that has the coil in the cap. I been looking hard at Dave's HEI due to the fact that you can get parts at your local parts house. But If I were to go with MSD or Mallory. Which one is the best? If I go with one of these I will go with a billet distrubtor.
Also lets say I go with MSD what all do I need to purchase to get it going in my truck? Please give me a detailed parts list.
I know I will need the distrubator, and external coil, is there any thing else that I might need?
This engine will see 6000 RPMS at times, and is going to be putting out 450 to 470 HP.
Thanks,
Sam Mancuso

stelth2002 · 01-28-2004, 06:31 PM

I use msd and am happy with it. Only thing is it will burn up a bad cap and rotor really fast.

67chevemall · 01-28-2004, 06:38 PM

That dave conversion looks pretty kool
nice and simple!

Anyone have pic's of it That web site is all TEXT??

67chevemall · 01-28-2004, 06:39 PM

My 383 runs stong at 4500rpm with a stock ign.
But I'd like to see what would happen with more Spark also!

lukecp · 01-28-2004, 06:40 PM

Why not go with a MSD HEI? Then all you need is plugs and wires, and you can get caps and rotors at the parts house. Price is around $330.....but from what i hear they are kick-a$$ distributors

Chevy67Tk · 01-28-2004, 06:44 PM

I’ll put in another vote for MSD, been using them for years and have been very happy.

If your going with the non-HEI unit you will also need a control box the MSD-6AL is a nice one. Provides lost of power and you get there soft touch rev-limiter.

67chevemall · 01-29-2004, 10:35 AM

I emailed dave for pic's but they are to big!
Anyone have photo shop?

This is a small body HEI, a conversion I invented, developed and build. I have to get an old aluminum points dist from you to convert, as I have no cores. There are options available as well, along with a dedicated MSD trigger only conversion.

Post these pics on your board if you wish.

Let me know if I can build one for you.

Regards,
Dave Ray
IgnitionMan

DAVE's small-body HEI's
11605 Waddell Street
Whittier, California, 90606
(562) 699-6949
(562) 695-9199 (Fax only)
www.davessmallbodyheis.com
sparkman451@earthlink.net
sparkman451@dslextreme.com

bigjimzlll · 01-29-2004, 11:41 AM

Daves distributors are great. I know several people that use them. he is also a wealth of knowledge. For a hot street set up his cant be beat. The MSD is a great way to go too. The MSD can be tuned to run as good as Daves...but you have to know what you are doing. Go with either Daves or MSD...you wont be disapointed.

Bowtiefreak · 01-29-2004, 11:55 AM

I have used a ton of different MSD stuff over the yeaqrs with great results. DUI is also a great ignition set-up. A freind of mine has used a couple of his set-ups with great result also.

superfly68 · 01-29-2004, 04:19 PM

email the pics to me if you want them reduced.

superfly68 · 01-29-2004, 06:08 PM

here are your reduced pics..
one at a time...

superfly68 · 01-29-2004, 06:09 PM

two...

superfly68 · 01-29-2004, 06:09 PM

and 30 seconds later..... three

67chevemall · 01-29-2004, 06:12 PM

Good Work Superfly!

superfly68 · 01-29-2004, 06:20 PM

no prob! just trying to get my post count up!

gotmud · 01-29-2004, 08:56 PM

I wanted to keep the stock look also so I yanked the points out, painted the cap, and put in a pertronix points replacement. I think they are at www.pertronix.com. Anyway only had to add 1 shim (which came wiht the unit) while following the directions and all went well with a small amt of help form the gang on this board.
Runs like a champ!

67chevemall · 01-30-2004, 10:37 AM

bad69 · 01-31-2004, 12:51 AM

that Daves distributor looks it has the same pickup as an MSD, a ford magnetic. cheap and available at any parts store. I run the MSD ignition and love it on my 550 hp camaro.

01-28-2004, 06:21 PM	#1
sam's 72 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Pasadena, Texas, USA Posts: 1,005	Ignition systems.....Which way to go? I want to get a complete Ignition for my truck. The 383 will be in the truck in about a month. I want to go on ahead and set up a good ignition in it now for the 383 thats comming. I am stuck between a MSD, Mallory or http://www.davessmallbodyheis.com/ So as usuial I am turning to you guys to help me out. I want the electronic, but I don't want to go with one that has the coil in the cap. I been looking hard at Dave's HEI due to the fact that you can get parts at your local parts house. But If I were to go with MSD or Mallory. Which one is the best? If I go with one of these I will go with a billet distrubtor. Also lets say I go with MSD what all do I need to purchase to get it going in my truck? Please give me a detailed parts list. I know I will need the distrubator, and external coil, is there any thing else that I might need? This engine will see 6000 RPMS at times, and is going to be putting out 450 to 470 HP. Thanks, Sam Mancuso __________________ 72 LWB chevy truck. Pasadena, Texas

01-28-2004, 06:31 PM	#2
stelth2002 Young Gun wth Fast Inline Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 1,475	I use msd and am happy with it. Only thing is it will burn up a bad cap and rotor really fast. __________________ 1967 Chevrolet LWB with built 292! 415 ft. lbs of torque, 4 speed :O with 27% overdrive too, 3.73 Posi. Frame and body done... getting painted!!!

01-28-2004, 06:38 PM	#3
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	That dave conversion looks pretty kool nice and simple! Anyone have pic's of it That web site is all TEXT?? __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-28-2004, 06:39 PM	#4
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	My 383 runs stong at 4500rpm with a stock ign. But I'd like to see what would happen with more Spark also! __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-28-2004, 06:40 PM	#5
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Why not go with a MSD HEI? Then all you need is plugs and wires, and you can get caps and rotors at the parts house. Price is around $330.....but from what i hear they are kick-a$$ distributors __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

01-28-2004, 06:44 PM	#6
Chevy67Tk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PA Posts: 349	I’ll put in another vote for MSD, been using them for years and have been very happy. If your going with the non-HEI unit you will also need a control box the MSD-6AL is a nice one. Provides lost of power and you get there soft touch rev-limiter. __________________

01-29-2004, 10:35 AM	#7
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	I emailed dave for pic's but they are to big! Anyone have photo shop? This is a small body HEI, a conversion I invented, developed and build. I have to get an old aluminum points dist from you to convert, as I have no cores. There are options available as well, along with a dedicated MSD trigger only conversion. Post these pics on your board if you wish. Let me know if I can build one for you. Regards, Dave Ray IgnitionMan DAVE's small-body HEI's 11605 Waddell Street Whittier, California, 90606 (562) 699-6949 (562) 695-9199 (Fax only) www.davessmallbodyheis.com sparkman451@earthlink.net sparkman451@dslextreme.com __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-29-2004, 11:41 AM	#8
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	Daves distributors are great. I know several people that use them. he is also a wealth of knowledge. For a hot street set up his cant be beat. The MSD is a great way to go too. The MSD can be tuned to run as good as Daves...but you have to know what you are doing. Go with either Daves or MSD...you wont be disapointed. __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA

01-29-2004, 11:55 AM	#9
Bowtiefreak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LeRoy, Mich. Posts: 854	I have used a ton of different MSD stuff over the yeaqrs with great results. DUI is also a great ignition set-up. A freind of mine has used a couple of his set-ups with great result also. __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 Short Fleetside/Wood floor ECE 4-6 Drop / 406 Small Block 1971 Chevelle 427 Big Block

01-29-2004, 04:19 PM	#10
superfly68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Encinitas,CA Posts: 316	email the pics to me if you want them reduced. __________________ no longer have a ride, but still a fan!

01-29-2004, 06:08 PM	#11
superfly68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Encinitas,CA Posts: 316	here are your reduced pics.. one at a time... Attached Images __________________ no longer have a ride, but still a fan!

01-29-2004, 06:09 PM	#12
superfly68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Encinitas,CA Posts: 316	two... Attached Images __________________ no longer have a ride, but still a fan!

01-29-2004, 06:09 PM	#13
superfly68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Encinitas,CA Posts: 316	and 30 seconds later..... three Attached Images __________________ no longer have a ride, but still a fan!

01-29-2004, 06:12 PM	#14
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Good Work Superfly! __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-29-2004, 06:20 PM	#15
superfly68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Encinitas,CA Posts: 316	no prob! just trying to get my post count up! __________________ no longer have a ride, but still a fan!



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01-29-2004, 08:56 PM	#16
gotmud Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 234	I wanted to keep the stock look also so I yanked the points out, painted the cap, and put in a pertronix points replacement. I think they are at www.pertronix.com. Anyway only had to add 1 shim (which came wiht the unit) while following the directions and all went well with a small amt of help form the gang on this board. Runs like a champ! __________________ Glenn Cumming, Ga (68 C/10 Fleetside LWB 307 (64 C/10 Fleetside Shorty Custom 350, with 73 donor parts aplenty) (2001 Porsche Boxster S - 168 MPH of fun) (2005 Chevy Avalanche Z71 1500)

01-30-2004, 10:37 AM	#17
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	__________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD Last edited by 67chevemall; 01-30-2004 at 10:40 AM.

01-31-2004, 12:51 AM	#18
bad69 Struggling Artist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Battle Ground WA. Posts: 122	that Daves distributor looks it has the same pickup as an MSD, a ford magnetic. cheap and available at any parts store. I run the MSD ignition and love it on my 550 hp camaro. __________________ 69 1/2 ton lwb lowrider 90 C-1500 2wd 08 2500 HD 4WD 94 Grand Cherokee 49 Cadillac sedan

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