67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

PancakeMix · 02-19-2015, 11:24 AM

'72 Chevy 3/4 ton frame, long bed

14 Bolt full float, cab and chassis rear end

8x6.5 budds

I'm trying to decide what front axle to run, and get it bought this winter. So come Spring, I'll have something fun to do. Have a nice rolling chassis.

The truck is going to be a street machine. POSSIBLE plow use. Lowered, or at least leveled. Nothing crazy.

I know my rear axle will bolt right in, aside from relocating a shock. I would like the same to happen on the front...

Does it matter what Dana 60 I buy for the front? There's so many different variations and things to consider though. Kingpin or balljoints. Different steering setups. Gearing. Old or new. GM, Dodge, Ford, IHC.

Chevy spring perches are all 32" wide, the rest are all bigger - so I'd have to find a Chevy one. And obviously will need one from a dually. Lug pattern should all be 8x6.5, until the newer axles.

From what I have searched on the forum and read online elsewhere, it looks like any Chevy Dana 60 front dually will bolt right up. Is that right?

57taskforce · 02-19-2015, 12:35 PM

Sub'd I'm going the same route gm 60... Be nice to know what I'm up against. I've got my plans made and ready for my 3100 but for my 72 I havnt even looked into it.

CrewCab59 · 02-19-2015, 06:15 PM

The GM 77-91 dana 60 only came with king pins. The 1st gen dodge will work as well with a few changes like wheel studs and shock mounts.

**special-K** · 02-19-2015, 11:42 PM

I'm curious what is considered a 1st gen Dodge?

CrewCab59 · 02-20-2015, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

I'm curious what is considered a 1st gen Dodge?

The 1st gen dodge 89-93 3/4 ton and 1 ton .Is just body style which had the 5.9 Cummins , the 4wd all had dana 60 and Dana 61 . The dana 61 had 3:08 gearing and 727 auto Trans.

SS Tim · 02-20-2015, 01:09 AM

You know this! The 81-93, a facelift (barely) of the 72-80 trucks.
First generation comes from the fact this was the first bodystyle Dodge pickup to have the Cummins 5.9 diesel in 1989. Guess if you lump in the 78-79 Mitsubishi 4.0 diesel it becomes even more true

mcmlxix · 02-20-2015, 05:56 AM

I believe the spring pads on a Dodge D60 are slightly wider.
If you're not doing heavy duty off roading with 37" or larger tires, keep the D44 and upgrade the guts...

dell72 · 02-20-2015, 10:54 AM

I used a mid 70's K 30 Dana 60 in my 72 K 20, bolted in with no mods. rear 14 bolt required different shock mounts

CrewCab59 · 02-20-2015, 01:54 PM

The gm dana 60 were 32" center to center , dodge are 32.5" . The dodge is about half the cost as a gm and that's why there a good buy. The 1/2" difference can be made up by off set spring bushings.

It just all depends what you can find and if you need a D60.

**kwmech** · 02-20-2015, 05:37 PM

Chevy/GMC spring centers are 31.5 and the Dodges are 32. Regardless there is a 1/2'' difference between the 2. Not uncommon to bolt in a dodge front end on a chevy 1/4'' per side is not that big a deal unless you have brand new springs, bushings and hangars that make everything really tight

72MARIO · 02-20-2015, 09:11 PM

Order. Off road design makes a offset spring bushing kit to fit a dodge axle.

Orange Crate · 02-20-2015, 09:34 PM

Here is a good read:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ont/index.html

I think this thread could be moved to the 4X4 section please.

02-19-2015, 11:24 AM	#1
PancakeMix Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Western Mass Posts: 11	67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? '72 Chevy 3/4 ton frame, long bed 14 Bolt full float, cab and chassis rear end 8x6.5 budds I'm trying to decide what front axle to run, and get it bought this winter. So come Spring, I'll have something fun to do. Have a nice rolling chassis. The truck is going to be a street machine. POSSIBLE plow use. Lowered, or at least leveled. Nothing crazy. I know my rear axle will bolt right in, aside from relocating a shock. I would like the same to happen on the front... Does it matter what Dana 60 I buy for the front? There's so many different variations and things to consider though. Kingpin or balljoints. Different steering setups. Gearing. Old or new. GM, Dodge, Ford, IHC. Chevy spring perches are all 32" wide, the rest are all bigger - so I'd have to find a Chevy one. And obviously will need one from a dually. Lug pattern should all be 8x6.5, until the newer axles. From what I have searched on the forum and read online elsewhere, it looks like any Chevy Dana 60 front dually will bolt right up. Is that right? __________________ 1967 Chevy C50. Vortec 4200. 4L80E.

02-19-2015, 12:35 PM	#2
57taskforce All about them K’s Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Farmington, New Mexico Posts: 6,327	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? Sub'd I'm going the same route gm 60... Be nice to know what I'm up against. I've got my plans made and ready for my 3100 but for my 72 I havnt even looked into it. __________________ Tyler '57 3100 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=813888 '72 K20 Cheyenne http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=662879 ‘69 K10 SWB http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=805206 '98 Silverado LT K2500HD ECLB Vortec 454/4l80E: 6" lift 315/75/16's ‘87 IROC-Z all original 50K mile survivor TPI 305 IROC Blue ‘10 Camaro 2SS/RS Aqua Blue Metallic #93 -version 2.0

02-19-2015, 06:15 PM	#3
CrewCab59 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 1,185	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? The GM 77-91 dana 60 only came with king pins. The 1st gen dodge will work as well with a few changes like wheel studs and shock mounts. __________________ 1972 Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 burb 1971 GMC SWB CST 4x4 1972 GMC k20 4x4 (X- brush truck ) 1971 Chevy CST Blazer 4x4 1971 Chevy C/10 1970 Cab Chassis C30 157" 1971 Cab Chassis Custom 30 Deluxe 157" 292/4spd ( Napco Replica ) 1988 Chevy V30 4x4 wrecker challenger 4812

02-19-2015, 11:42 PM	#4
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? I'm curious what is considered a 1st gen Dodge? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-20-2015, 01:09 AM	#6
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? You know this! The 81-93, a facelift (barely) of the 72-80 trucks. First generation comes from the fact this was the first bodystyle Dodge pickup to have the Cummins 5.9 diesel in 1989. Guess if you lump in the 78-79 Mitsubishi 4.0 diesel it becomes even more true __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

02-20-2015, 05:56 AM	#7
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? I believe the spring pads on a Dodge D60 are slightly wider. If you're not doing heavy duty off roading with 37" or larger tires, keep the D44 and upgrade the guts... __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

02-20-2015, 10:54 AM	#8
dell72 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Southern Wisconsin Posts: 126	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? I used a mid 70's K 30 Dana 60 in my 72 K 20, bolted in with no mods. rear 14 bolt required different shock mounts

02-20-2015, 01:54 PM	#9
CrewCab59 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 1,185	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? The gm dana 60 were 32" center to center , dodge are 32.5" . The dodge is about half the cost as a gm and that's why there a good buy. The 1/2" difference can be made up by off set spring bushings. It just all depends what you can find and if you need a D60. __________________ 1972 Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 burb 1971 GMC SWB CST 4x4 1972 GMC k20 4x4 (X- brush truck ) 1971 Chevy CST Blazer 4x4 1971 Chevy C/10 1970 Cab Chassis C30 157" 1971 Cab Chassis Custom 30 Deluxe 157" 292/4spd ( Napco Replica ) 1988 Chevy V30 4x4 wrecker challenger 4812

02-20-2015, 05:37 PM	#10
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,488	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? Chevy/GMC spring centers are 31.5 and the Dodges are 32. Regardless there is a 1/2'' difference between the 2. Not uncommon to bolt in a dodge front end on a chevy 1/4'' per side is not that big a deal unless you have brand new springs, bushings and hangars that make everything really tight

02-20-2015, 09:11 PM	#11
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? Order. Off road design makes a offset spring bushing kit to fit a dodge axle. __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

02-20-2015, 09:34 PM	#12
Orange Crate Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Under the Truck Dreaming Posts: 683	Re: 67-72 frame, Dana 60 front axle... which variation? Here is a good read: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ont/index.html I think this thread could be moved to the 4X4 section please. __________________ 72 K20 Custom Camper, D60, 14BFF, full roller 406 TPI w custom built ECU and yes..it has tow hooks...



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