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Old 04-13-2015, 11:42 AM   #1
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Re: All harnesses are NOT created equal.

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You are not reworking harnesses or cheaper making new harness? I have mine and ready for new or remake if you are quoting? 1969 suburban ls set up is 2005 5.3 suburban 4L80e and need relay for dual fans also. pedal will be DBW and I have my ECU
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:20 PM   #2
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Re: All harnesses are NOT created equal.

Do you do PCM tuning? OK, That's a dumb question, Do you do weird off the wall custom tunes?

I'm installing a '04 Truck 5.3L in a '01 V6 Camaro...
I need the Blue/Green Service # 12586242 PCM to control a '99-'02 F-body cluster & 3-relay cooling fans.
F-body A/C controls
Return trans pressure to stock. (Had it bumped by PCMforless)
Tune for 3:42's & 25.6" tire.
Vats turned off by PCMforless already.

Can you help me?
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:23 PM   #3
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Re: All harnesses are NOT created equal.

The rewire option would be nice as I have the full harness for my 07 5.3. 150tunes.com will do the harness and tune the PCM for $400. I've heard all great things about your company, but what will I get with your company vs doing the rewire with the other company? I want good quality and the best bang for my dollar. As the other poster stated I'm going to be running f body fans and a vintage ac system.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:09 PM   #4
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Do you do PCM tuning? OK, That's a dumb question, Do you do weird off the wall custom tunes?

I'm installing a '04 Truck 5.3L in a '01 V6 Camaro...
I need the Blue/Green Service # 12586242 PCM to control a '99-'02 F-body cluster & 3-relay cooling fans.
F-body A/C controls
Return trans pressure to stock. (Had it bumped by PCMforless)
Tune for 3:42's & 25.6" tire.
Vats turned off by PCMforless already.

Can you help me?
We can supply you with the tuning needed, however some of the P59 (Blue/Green PCM) will not accept the F-Body A/C controls. Give me a call and we can work through what you have going on. 270-805-1777.

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The rewire option would be nice as I have the full harness for my 07 5.3. 150tunes.com will do the harness and tune the PCM for $400. I've heard all great things about your company, but what will I get with your company vs doing the rewire with the other company? I want good quality and the best bang for my dollar. As the other poster stated I'm going to be running f body fans and a vintage ac system.
There is a HUGE difference between a rewire and a new harness, especially on the Vortec applications. The stock vortec harness is routed pretty bad. It just goes to the top of the intake and just splits everywhere from there. You are constrained to mounting the PCM/ECM in the same general area as the donor vehicle with those harnesses also.

Our new harnesses are routed like the Camaro/Firebird harnesses, and are 5ft long with a grommet on the main trunk line. This enables you to mount the PCM inside out of sight, or generally anywhere you want.

Once you sell your factory harness, that closes the gap between a rewire and a new harness considerably. A harness from us with the same options they add to a rewire costs $500, and the tune is $100 when purchased with a new harness. Thats $600 for the same options, just $200 difference. Once you sell the factory harness which in good condition brings $100-$150 its a no brainer.

Plus our fuseblock is lightyears better.

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Old 04-15-2015, 10:29 PM   #5
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Re: All harnesses are NOT created equal.

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We can supply you with the tuning needed, however some of the P59 (Blue/Green PCM) will not accept the F-Body A/C controls. Give me a call and we can work through what you have going on. 270-805-1777.

Bill
Thanks for the reply, I will give you a call tomorrow.
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Old 04-16-2015, 10:38 AM   #6
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We can supply you with the tuning needed, however some of the P59 (Blue/Green PCM) will not accept the F-Body A/C controls. Give me a call and we can work through what you have going on. 270-805-1777.



There is a HUGE difference between a rewire and a new harness, especially on the Vortec applications. The stock vortec harness is routed pretty bad. It just goes to the top of the intake and just splits everywhere from there. You are constrained to mounting the PCM/ECM in the same general area as the donor vehicle with those harnesses also.

Our new harnesses are routed like the Camaro/Firebird harnesses, and are 5ft long with a grommet on the main trunk line. This enables you to mount the PCM inside out of sight, or generally anywhere you want.

Once you sell your factory harness, that closes the gap between a rewire and a new harness considerably. A harness from us with the same options they add to a rewire costs $500, and the tune is $100 when purchased with a new harness. Thats $600 for the same options, just $200 difference. Once you sell the factory harness which in good condition brings $100-$150 its a no brainer.

Plus our fuseblock is lightyears better.

Bill
I priced out the harness on your site with the options and it was $775 for just the harness?
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:01 PM   #7
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I priced out the harness on your site with the options and it was $775 for just the harness?
That's what he's saying. Speartech Re-wire = $600. BP brand new stand alone harness w/ all the goodies = $800 and you can sell your factory harness off to compensate for the most of the difference and be better off in the end and not have an ugly "modified" factory harness.

I have a very good friend that specializes in LSx swaps and he doesn't even think twice about a re-wire service, nor re-wiring himself as it is so time consuming. Easy and hassle free to have everything come to you plug and play with no headaches and focus on the rest of the build. Even better if it is a vendor on the forum who guarantees their work.

It was a no brainer to me. I sent my order in for a new harness from Bill @ BP. He has answered all of my stupid/dummy questions and got me straightened out each and every time I have contacted him.

Listen to what he says and you won't regret it.
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Old 04-17-2015, 03:41 PM   #8
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So I'm leaning the BP way at this point. This is my first LS Swap. What are you guys doing as far as wiring the fuel pump in and the charging system?
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:40 PM   #9
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Re: All harnesses are NOT created equal.

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That's what he's saying. Speartech Re-wire = $600. BP brand new stand alone harness w/ all the goodies = $800 and you can sell your factory harness off to compensate for the most of the difference and be better off in the end and not have an ugly "modified" factory harness.

I have a very good friend that specializes in LSx swaps and he doesn't even think twice about a re-wire service, nor re-wiring himself as it is so time consuming. Easy and hassle free to have everything come to you plug and play with no headaches and focus on the rest of the build. Even better if it is a vendor on the forum who guarantees their work.

It was a no brainer to me. I sent my order in for a new harness from Bill @ BP. He has answered all of my stupid/dummy questions and got me straightened out each and every time I have contacted him.

Listen to what he says and you won't regret it.
This is exactly why I decided to go with the BP harness. With this being my first swap, I figured it was money well spent to not have to deal with the trouble of rewiring the factory harness and possibility of making mistakes. I may have missed it on the web site, but does the Premium harness come with the OBDII port already?
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:52 PM   #10
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I priced out the harness on your site with the options and it was $775 for just the harness?
What was your donor vehicle and what options are you wanting?

As I mentioned, the rewire you are looking at does not include any fan relays or any extras from what I can tell. Its the bare minimum.

Our Base series that has the same options as that rewire starts at $500 or $550 depending on throttle type.

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