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ocbaud · 02-22-2004, 01:31 AM

well, i didnt get the engine in today. found out that the flexplate needed shimmed. so we get a shim, but its still not enough, so we need to get another really thin one. but, by the time we found that out, the only store that had them around were closed(napa).

i did get everything else that needed to be done, done. new motor mounts hurt my knuckle though

CRRoy71 · 02-22-2004, 02:15 AM

Just be patient Eric, you have waited this long, another day or so isn't going to kill you. It will all fall into place, and you will be glad you took your time and did it right.

TIMSPEED · 02-22-2004, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by ocbaud
found out that the flexplate needed shimmed. so we get a shim, but its still not enough

Eric, be sure that you have the correct (168 tooth, iirc) flexplate, as well as the correct starter. That was my problem all along, I had the wrong starter for my flexplate, that's why, no matter HOW many shims I had it was never close ENOUGH. Trust me bud, with a SBC, you really SHOULDN'T need to shim it...just make DOUBLE sure you got all the right parts.

(Don't want you to spend the money I have, just to find out you got the wrong starter)

Blue Beard · 02-22-2004, 09:39 AM

There were some small blocks in 4x4s that even GM had to shim the starter to make it work.

ocbaud · 02-22-2004, 11:28 AM

the starter doesnt need a shim.

the reason i'm thinking the flexplate needs shimmed, is because its a TCI one and they state that it is extra think. plus the starter is a nice aftermarket one, and it will work with either 153 or 168 teeth flexplates(i have a 168)

toytruck · 02-22-2004, 12:39 PM

Are you shimming the flexplate or the starter? I've never heard of shimming the flexplate. I would never put shims on the flexplate.

gldevall · 02-22-2004, 12:53 PM

You may have it on backwards.

low 84 · 02-22-2004, 02:21 PM

i don't understand why you are shimming it either. you know the gear on the starter is not supposed to engauge your flexplate until you crank it right? and that if the torque converter is pressed all the way toward the tranny when you put the motor in there will be a tiny bit of space between the converter and tranny and you just pull the TC out a little bit till it touches the flexplate. i just can't see a reason for shimming the flexplate

ocbaud · 02-22-2004, 09:59 PM

if i were to start it the way it is in the picture, the starter gear would pull in, like it is in the picture, and not be out of the way of the flexplate, so it would still be hitting it.

yes the flexplate is on the correct way. it was in the starter instructions that it needs .0065 or .065 or something like that of space between the flexplate and starter teeth. the way it was(and is in those pictures) there is no any space between them.

its fixed now, and is spaced properly.

02-22-2004, 01:31 AM	#1
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	dang holdups! well, i didnt get the engine in today. found out that the flexplate needed shimmed. so we get a shim, but its still not enough, so we need to get another really thin one. but, by the time we found that out, the only store that had them around were closed(napa). i did get everything else that needed to be done, done. new motor mounts hurt my knuckle though

02-22-2004, 02:15 AM	#2
CRRoy71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mont Belvieu, TX Posts: 852	Just be patient Eric, you have waited this long, another day or so isn't going to kill you. It will all fall into place, and you will be glad you took your time and did it right. __________________ Chris '92 ext. cab s/b 4.3L "Sparky" '04 crew cab 2500 4x4 6.0L

02-22-2004, 09:39 AM	#4
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	There were some small blocks in 4x4s that even GM had to shim the starter to make it work. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

02-22-2004, 12:39 PM	#6
toytruck 5-7 dropped 87 CC Dually Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: bay city mi Posts: 326	Are you shimming the flexplate or the starter? I've never heard of shimming the flexplate. I would never put shims on the flexplate. __________________ I rather be in my 77 Sanger Picklefork Jet Hydro!

02-22-2004, 12:53 PM	#7
gldevall Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Walker, LA Posts: 2,925	You may have it on backwards. __________________ Gary -1986 SWB: lowered 4/6, SOLD!!! -Best 1/4 mile: 14.51 @ 91.01 MPH -2001 Pewter Tahoe, billet grill, Corsa Sport Cat-back, K&N FIPK SOLD!!! -2004 Z-71 Extended cab with a flowmaster, BDS 6.5", 3" BL, 35x12.5x18 Trail Grapplers on Pro-Comp 18x9 wheels

02-22-2004, 11:28 AM	#5
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	the starter doesnt need a shim. the reason i'm thinking the flexplate needs shimmed, is because its a TCI one and they state that it is extra think. plus the starter is a nice aftermarket one, and it will work with either 153 or 168 teeth flexplates(i have a 168)

02-22-2004, 02:21 PM	#8
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	i don't understand why you are shimming it either. you know the gear on the starter is not supposed to engauge your flexplate until you crank it right? and that if the torque converter is pressed all the way toward the tranny when you put the motor in there will be a tiny bit of space between the converter and tranny and you just pull the TC out a little bit till it touches the flexplate. i just can't see a reason for shimming the flexplate __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

02-22-2004, 09:59 PM	#9
ocbaud Garage Queen Material Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,129	if i were to start it the way it is in the picture, the starter gear would pull in, like it is in the picture, and not be out of the way of the flexplate, so it would still be hitting it. yes the flexplate is on the correct way. it was in the starter instructions that it needs .0065 or .065 or something like that of space between the flexplate and starter teeth. the way it was(and is in those pictures) there is no any space between them. its fixed now, and is spaced properly.



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