1947 Chevrolet 3100

[MARTINSR]

Originally Posted by Henry50

Wow, I thought I was the only person on this forum that that can't stand the s10 frame swaps.

In my opinion, first off, we are all different. I can't say this enough, we are all different and we have different needs. I am talking personally here, ME personally, I loath the idea. I don't see a vintage truck anymore when it's done. In my opinion it's not a 1950 Chevy pickup with an S-10 Frame under it, it's a 1990 S-10 with a customized body to look like a 1950 Chevy pickup.

I just hate to see it because sooooooo often it's done by people who don't know that they could be driving the stock truck or a modified stock frame just fine, they don't need anything more, it's not a big deal to drive the stock truck with the drum brakes and all every day, it's soooooooooo over thought. "Can't drive with drum brakes on the modern highway" I want to SCREAM.....as I drive my stone stock 1959 Rambler every single day.

Sorry original poster, back to the cool new truck you bought.

Brian

[joedoh]

Originally Posted by MARTINSR

In my opinion, first off, we are all different. I can't say this enough, we are all different and we have different needs. I am talking personally here, ME personally, I loath the idea. I don't see a vintage truck anymore when it's done. In my opinion it's not a 1950 Chevy pickup with an S-10 Frame under it, it's a 1990 S-10 with a customized body to look like a 1950 Chevy pickup.

I just hate to see it because sooooooo often it's done by people who don't know that they could be driving the stock truck or a modified stock frame just fine, they don't need anything more, it's not a big deal to drive the stock truck with the drum brakes and all every day, it's soooooooooo over thought. "Can't drive with drum brakes on the modern highway" I want to SCREAM.....as I drive my stone stock 1959 Rambler every single day.

Sorry original poster, back to the cool new truck you bought.

Brian

whats the top speed of your rambler?

drum brakes stop things extremely well, but will fade with repeated high speed uses. you also have to apply more pedal pressure than a disc setup, for people who are used to modern brakes (modern in this case being the last 50 years of at least front disc brakes) driving a non power drum setup requires a lot of acclimation and more planning in traffic. driving a power disc setup doesnt have a learning curve to it at all.

In my opinion the reason to choose any IFS clip over straight axle is almost always ride height. most will want to lower their custom 47-55, and with a straight axle, even a drop axle, you cant get as low without IFS, the beam of the straight axle will be the lowest part of the truck, even with airbags, the relationship of the axle to the ground will never change no matter the ride height of the body. there are weld on and even bolt on IFS options, but given the choice between driving next to a truck with a weld on/bolt on clip or next to a complete S10 frame truck with weld on body mounts, I will take the s10 frame every time.

we are all different, especially in that I wont ever say I hate a particular modification. do whatever you enjoy. I see the practicality of upgrading all the systems at the same time, rather than a piece at a time, but that doesnt mean it is better. traditional hot rodding was always about using what was inexpensive and readily available. There will also always be guys who will use an outhouse and read by candlelight because it still works and so they can be nostalgic about the good old days, even though there are modern alternatives.

[MARTINSR]

No, I hate it. I can say that, really, I hate it. I am not going to make a law stopping anyone else from doing it, but I can hate it.

My Rambler has a top speed of about 65. The brakes were awesome, I mean amazing! Do they fade, yep they would if I drove it off the top of a mountain. I know this because my 65 Buicks brakes faded horribly when I drove down a large hill for miles. Oh yeah, they aren't for everyone. That is why I said we all have different needs. There are people who really really SHOULD put discs and or independent fronts on their truck. But the frame swap is sooooooo over done it's crazy, oh, and I hate it.

I have to say, what I really hate isn't so much the mod, because as you said "do what you enjoy" that's all good. What I hate is that sooooo many swaps are being done because the guy is mislead. He really thinks it MUST be done, well it doesn't. Just a few mods, just a few and I can drive across the country with any frame swapped truck, there is no difference at all other than the massive amount of work needed to swap the frame! I have talked a number of people out of it, that is my mission in life, that and don't get married unless you KNOW it is you and your ladies destiny. Don't "try" marriage, it isn't a pair of shoes.

Oh, and try every food there is, food is one of our greatest blessings, we use all our senses when we eat. I am going out for a Turkish meal today for my birthday, damn am I looking forward to that!

Brian