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manimal · 04-26-2016, 04:28 PM

Is/was it common for a cab and chassis dually to get a 292/4spd? I bought one today and that is what is in it. Its a 1982 Cab/Chassis with a 292,SM465 w/PTO and a utility bed(coming off asap).....gonna revisit my flatbed BBQ truck plans.
This thing has PS and Hydroboost!

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 04-26-2016, 09:53 PM

I've never seen one in person, kind of rare around this area. Every early to mid '80's cab and chassis I came across when looking for a truck either had a 350 or a 454. It seemed like I found more 454 powered trucks, my '84 was in the best condition of all the trucks I looked at (and the cheapest!) and even had working A/C still charged with R12.

MTCK · 04-26-2016, 11:05 PM

That's how my 84 k30 plow truck was born. 292, turbo 400 and 4.56 in the axles. Pushes great. No land speed records. It also has hydroboost and ps.

andrewmp6 · 04-27-2016, 02:15 AM

Back in the old days when a truck was a truck even a 1 ton had the base model engine of a inline 6.Is it rare to us yeah was it when it was new i have no idea,But when a company bought fleet trucks they bought the cheapest truck they could.

Oberon67 · 04-27-2016, 07:47 AM

It was made to haul heavy stuff, not go fast. Makes perfect sense in that context.

**MikeB** · 04-27-2016, 11:43 AM

Even a 292 six can work well with the torque multiplication of a 4.56 axle, and the SM465's insanely low first gear.

**MikeB** · 04-27-2016, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewmp6

Back in the old days when a truck was a truck even a 1 ton had the base model engine of a inline 6.Is it rare to us yeah was it when it was new i have no idea,But when a company bought fleet trucks they bought the cheapest truck they could.

Yeah, I remember when fleet and military trucks were BASE trucks: 3-speed column shift for the 1/2-tons, and 4-speeds for the 3/4 and 1-tons trucks.

Tinted windows? Carpet? Radio? No way!

A/C? It's got windows doesn't it?

I even remember some with spare wheels, but no spare tire.

And if there was a "delete" option for anything, the trucks were ordered that way.

mike in mo · 04-27-2016, 01:14 PM

i have a 1980 c30 cab chassis dually the glove box tag list the 292 sm465 with 4:10 gears its hydro boost power steering. its 427 tall deck NP541 5 speed now. funny i had a 79 c30 single wheel with the same spec 292 4 speed.

Tom · 04-27-2016, 06:48 PM

1:1 final gear and 4.56's might work for a farm but not for road travels. Can't imagine it can tow very much with only 160hp.

GM72K10 · 04-27-2016, 08:48 PM

Lot of mid 60s C50s and C60s had the big 292 in them also. We used a 61 Viking 60 with the big six and a straight 4 speed. Geared, low, could pull anything but slow.

ElGracho · 04-27-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

1:1 final gear and 4.56's might work for a farm but not for road travels. Can't imagine it can tow very much with only 160hp.

These are almost the exact specs for every CUCV pickup ever made. The M1008, M1028 and M1031s I mean. 6.2 Diesel with 165 Hp, TH400 with 1:1 3rd gear (they weren't lock up converters, so not even 1:1 really...) and 4.56 gears...

100%Chevy · 04-27-2016, 11:08 PM

My 78,P-30 has the same drivetrain.
At 60 mph,it's really screaming!
But,we once loaded the van body with old Chevy engines and parts and a trailer behind it with my tractor.Quite a load.
Pulled it all just fine!
Mike.

MTCK · 04-28-2016, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

1:1 final gear and 4.56's might work for a farm but not for road travels. Can't imagine it can tow very much with only 160hp.

This is why the school district I got my plow truck from finally sold it. Worked for the first 31 years but they needed to pull a trailer and it wasn't up to the task. I love how flat the torque curve is with this motor. I plowed for a long time with a K5 305 700r4 and love how this 292 pulls great right off of idle. Makes it really easy to be smooth and still get a lot done.

Oberon67 · 04-28-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

1:1 final gear and 4.56's might work for a farm but not for road travels. Can't imagine it can tow very much with only 160hp.

There was a time when dump trucks and road tractors were routinely built with no more HP than that. They got around on torque, and weren't expected to be fast.

Times change.

04-26-2016, 04:28 PM	#1
manimal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Kalifornia Posts: 3,066	292 in a 1ton? Is/was it common for a cab and chassis dually to get a 292/4spd? I bought one today and that is what is in it. Its a 1982 Cab/Chassis with a 292,SM465 w/PTO and a utility bed(coming off asap).....gonna revisit my flatbed BBQ truck plans. This thing has PS and Hydroboost! __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ -Lance 2000 Chevy C2500, 5.7, 4L80e 1999 Suburban K2500, 7.4, 4L80e 1980 Camaro..son's car...PROJECT

04-26-2016, 09:53 PM	#2
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Re: 292 in a 1ton? I've never seen one in person, kind of rare around this area. Every early to mid '80's cab and chassis I came across when looking for a truck either had a 350 or a 454. It seemed like I found more 454 powered trucks, my '84 was in the best condition of all the trucks I looked at (and the cheapest!) and even had working A/C still charged with R12. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

04-26-2016, 11:05 PM	#3
MTCK Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 1,830	Re: 292 in a 1ton? That's how my 84 k30 plow truck was born. 292, turbo 400 and 4.56 in the axles. Pushes great. No land speed records. It also has hydroboost and ps. __________________ -Marcus 1991 V3500 L29 454 4L80E NP205 D60/14 Bolt 4.56's 1984 K30 292 TH400 NP205 D60/14 Bolt 4.56's flat bed 7'6" Meyer Plow 2022 Silverado 3500 L8T Project Daily Driver Project Heavy Hauler Project Plow Truck

04-27-2016, 02:15 AM	#4
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: 292 in a 1ton? Back in the old days when a truck was a truck even a 1 ton had the base model engine of a inline 6.Is it rare to us yeah was it when it was new i have no idea,But when a company bought fleet trucks they bought the cheapest truck they could.

04-27-2016, 07:47 AM	#5
Oberon67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 146	Re: 292 in a 1ton? It was made to haul heavy stuff, not go fast. Makes perfect sense in that context.

04-27-2016, 11:43 AM	#6
MikeB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: North Texas Posts: 3,597	Re: 292 in a 1ton? Even a 292 six can work well with the torque multiplication of a 4.56 axle, and the SM465's insanely low first gear. __________________ Mike 1969 C10 LWB -- owned for 35 years. 350/TH350, 3.08 posi, 1st Gen Vintage Air, recent AAW wiring harness, 5-lug conversion, 1985 spindles and brakes. 1982 C10 SWB -- sold 1981 C10 Silverado LWB -- sold, but wish I still had it! 1969 C10 (not the current one) that I bought in the early 1980s. Paid $1200; sold for $1500 a few years later. Just a hint at the appreciation that was coming. Retired as a factory automation products salesman. Worked part-time over the years for an engine builder and a classic car repair shop. Member here for 24 years! This is the very first car/truck Internet forum I joined. I still used a dial-up modem back then!

04-27-2016, 01:14 PM	#8
mike in mo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: centralia missouri Posts: 123	Re: 292 in a 1ton? i have a 1980 c30 cab chassis dually the glove box tag list the 292 sm465 with 4:10 gears its hydro boost power steering. its 427 tall deck NP541 5 speed now. funny i had a 79 c30 single wheel with the same spec 292 4 speed.

04-27-2016, 06:48 PM	#9
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,748	Re: 292 in a 1ton? 1:1 final gear and 4.56's might work for a farm but not for road travels. Can't imagine it can tow very much with only 160hp. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

04-27-2016, 08:48 PM	#10
GM72K10 Next! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Eastern Pa. Posts: 2,483	Re: 292 in a 1ton? Lot of mid 60s C50s and C60s had the big 292 in them also. We used a 61 Viking 60 with the big six and a straight 4 speed. Geared, low, could pull anything but slow. __________________ 86 K30 CUCV M1028A1 86 K30 CUCV M1028a2 dually 86 K30 C&C 6.2 4:56s, 4M, 11,000 gvw, ex fire truck, now lowboy dump More square bodies and CUCVs than I care to admit to 2020 Silverado K3500HD Work truck

04-27-2016, 11:08 PM	#12
100%Chevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Moss Point,Ms. Posts: 1,439	Re: 292 in a 1ton? My 78,P-30 has the same drivetrain. At 60 mph,it's really screaming! But,we once loaded the van body with old Chevy engines and parts and a trailer behind it with my tractor.Quite a load. Pulled it all just fine! Mike.



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