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Old 05-13-2016, 06:36 AM   #1
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Is it time to think about engine work?

I've been asking multiple questions on the forum about different issues I've been dealing with on my 78 and I thank all those who have responded. This question may be short sighted or even a severe reaction to mild events but I'd like to have your comments in either case.

First a little background - I bought this truck out of state back in December and have been tinkering with it ever since and while I've enjoyed working on it as time, money and the weather will allow, I don't want to get into this thing so deep that I'm throwing my money away. Being a person who likes to do things right the first time, is intimately familiar with Murphy's Law, and is guided by the snowball theory of maintenance, here is a list of repairs already done on the truck:

Rebuilt carb - old one was misbehaving ---v
New vacuum lines - cracked, split & wanted to unburden the engine of all the emission crap --v
Headers - had to remove the manifolds to get some of the emission crap off & they warped --v
Repaired 2 exhaust manifold bolt holes - hey this things old --v
Plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, air filter, oil change, pcv valve - might as well while your in there --v
Valve cover gaskets - would have leaked when I mounted the plug wire looms to the bolts --v
Alternator - loose post connection --v
Battery - 6 yrs old & weak --v
Starter - intermittent at best --v
Belts - why not everything else is new --v
Thermostat & housing - housing was leaking & corroded and if your gonna do that..... --v
Fuel pump, lines & filter - was leaking

Now that I've got it running again (it's got less than 20 miles drive time since I've owned it) it looks like the oil pan gasket (cork) is leaking and possibly the front and rear main seals are as well. That coupled with the possibility that the cam lobe for the fuel pump may be worn down to the nub (see post Next question - fuel filter not filling) I'm wondering if it's not time to just jerk the engine & either run thru it, swap it with a crate motor or continue with this a la carte renewal? Some things to consider - The truck shows 40K on the odometer which given it's age is more like 140K. With that in mind, the valve train and top of the heads looked brand new when I removed the valve covers, no gunk build up what so ever. I have not run a compression test on it but it doesn't drive bad, what little I've driven.

So after a long winded intro, I'd like to hear from you. If this was your truck and you didn't need it as a daily driver and could work on it (outside when the weather cooperates) at your leisure but didn't want to break the bank either, what route would you take from here?
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Old 05-13-2016, 09:16 AM   #2
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Re: Is it time to think about engine work?

Personally, I would run a compression test first. That will guide you. I know these are nuisance and time consuming repairs, but nothing that big. If you truly want to do the engine, I would consider buying either a crate or a core to build. If the truck is running right now, you could rebuild the core as time/money permit, and the truck is not down while it's being done.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:18 PM   #3
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Re: Is it time to think about engine work?

That's all pretty normal stuff you replaced so far. That fuel pump lobe I mentioned the other day was actually a first for me. I have never had it happen before. My other truck seems to need a fuel pump every couple years, they just don't make them like they used to and I usually buy the cheap ones. It's still lifetme warranty and I have gotten a couple replaced on warranty.

I really dislike oil leaks and I don't like messing with the oil pan in the vehicle but if you are going to do it, a 4x4 is easier than any other vehicle. I need to change a rear main on mine next week so I'll just have to suck it up and get under there and do it. If I had to do the front one too I would seriously think about pulling the engine but most likely I would suck it up again and take the balancer off and just do it. My engine is clean, the job is 3 times worse if you are working with 40 year old grease and dirt.

Pulling the engine is a good excuse to pressure wash it and put new bearings and oil pump and timing chain and cam and lifters for a quick freshen up. If you get deeper than that then a crate engine starts sounding pretty good. I would try to document how much oil you are actually losing. My bad rear main can pump out a quart in 100 miles. If your oil isn't disappearing too fast then maybe you can live with a few drips here and there.
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:01 PM   #4
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Re: Is it time to think about engine work?

I'm thinking that the pan gasket is probably leaking due to inactivity. The fella I bought the truck from said it was a barn find in California that he did a little work to and flipped. From the looks of the bottom of the transmission and transfer case this thing has been leaking a long while, it's caked on. I may pull the inspection cover off the bell housing to see if the inside of the cover is wet. That should be a clear indication whether or not the rear main is leaking. The front leak may just be part of the pan gasket, I'll know better once I remove the pan whether the front is leaking.
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