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Old 06-10-2016, 11:21 AM   #1
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Water Pump Rebuilder

I simply hate the parts store stock short water pumps. They have become a generic "one fits all" pump with the ugly knob that sticks up on top with the 3/4" pipe thread. So us SBC guys have to put an ugly plug in there. Just detracts from the appearance of the front of the engine if you ask me. You can see from the pics of what I mean. The orange pump is the one off of my engine now. It is a parts store special that only after about 2,500 miles is leaking coolant from the weep hole. Plus it's ugly as a mud fence. The unpainted pump is the one I want to have rebuilt. They do have the same fan hub, so that will work with what I have.

I can't even remember back if when I bought my 1972 GMC C15, if it had an original pump in it, or a reman. Anyhoo... I've been pack-ratting a couple of old water pumps around for 30 years and want to use one on my rig now. The one short pump I have is a "608" pump with a date code that puts it October of 1965 I believe. I don't care about the date code, but just the fact that it doesn't have the ugly knob sticking up on top.

So I told you all that... just to ask you this... I'm looking for a decent water pump rebuilder close to Seattle, WA or to the North. I don't mind sending it off somewhere. But it would be nice to just drive somewhere local. Anybody have any info on something close? I found Flying Dutchman Pump Rebuilders out of Oregon, but it's just a bit too far south for a drive.

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Old 06-10-2016, 11:42 AM   #2
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Re: Water Pump Rebuilder

I've had good results from reading hemmings motor news just browse and pick one that is local to you for a rebuilder
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Old 06-10-2016, 11:58 AM   #3
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If you look around you might find a rebuild kit and do it yourself. I remember finding a corvette place that sold all those funny rebuild kits for the old stuff. I lost the link though when my computer crashed. It cant be all that hard, especially if you have access to a press.
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:02 PM   #4
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You could ship it to China, India, or Mexico for a cost-effective rebuild, with questionable quality components, performed by children, in a dirt floor factory. Oh, wait, that's what the parts stores do
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Old 06-10-2016, 04:00 PM   #5
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I have had a CARQUEST send one for a '60 Cadillac to Cardone for a rebuild. It was OK. I would look at the Corvette suppliers. One of them probably does it in USA. A quick search shows:

http://arthurgouldrebuilders.com/about/
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Old 06-10-2016, 07:34 PM   #6
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as stated above. a rebuilder from Hemmigs Motor News. Or one who advertises in NCRS magazine
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Old 06-10-2016, 08:48 PM   #7
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Check out RockAuto. Carbone Select #5511167H. Only 1 left.
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Old 06-10-2016, 10:04 PM   #8
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That port is used in 65 to 67 327 truck engines as a water pump bypass. Not the best picture but you can see the hose under the smog pump.
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:51 AM   #9
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As a couple have mentioned above I'll have to check out Hemmings. Thanks!

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The pic only shows the bottom of the pump, so not sure if it has that bypass port or not.

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That port is used in 65 to 67 327 truck engines as a water pump bypass. Not the best picture but you can see the hose under the smog pump.
I learned something new today as I thought that was BBC bypass port since the pump will fit both SBC and BBC. Thanks for that!

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Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
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Old 06-11-2016, 11:19 AM   #10
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The pic only shows the bottom of the pump, so not sure if it has that bypass port or not.
There are several pics of the pump if you click on the small pic. They also give the casting number which I am 99% sure is the type pump you want.
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Old 06-11-2016, 11:26 AM   #11
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Re: Water Pump Rebuilder

I see said the blind man! I didn't see the little arrows letting you select more pics. Thanks!

Only problem is the fan hub isn't the correct one.

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Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
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Old 06-11-2016, 12:12 PM   #12
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Re: Water Pump Rebuilder

A BBC pump and sbc pump are not the same.
They look similar but they are dimensionly differnt.

I recently got a swp for a sbc with the ugly knob so I can relate too your issue with them
it's cool your gonna get a older one rebuilt I'm sure it's a way better casting To start with.
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Old 06-11-2016, 12:48 PM   #13
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I see said the blind man! I didn't see the little arrows letting you select more pics. Thanks!

Only problem is the fan hub isn't the correct one.

Gary
The hub looks the same as all I've had with only 4 holes. What do you see different? I'm sure having yours rebuilt will likely cost a lot more. If you want me to look trough the NCRS "Driveline" for rebuilders, I can.
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:53 PM   #14
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Sorry can't resist . I would not mind rebuilding my own short water pump. I know this thread is about a reputable rebuilder, Be nice to know where you can get parts for these pumps???? Sounds like a Saturday afternoon project. If you fail go buy a $20 pump until you get it right! At work they call them opportunities !!!!
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:30 PM   #15
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just google automotive water pump rebuilders and your state. or talk to a napa or another autoparts store, stay away from vatozone, AA, etc., as the question would probably confuse them if its not in their computer. I've had tractor water pumps rebuild a few times when replacements weren't available or were a ridiculous price.
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Old 06-11-2016, 03:11 PM   #16
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A BBC pump and sbc pump are not the same.
They look similar but they are dimensionly differnt.

I recently got a swp for a sbc with the ugly knob so I can relate too your issue with them
it's cool your gonna get a older one rebuilt I'm sure it's a way better casting To start with.
I've been a SBC guy for all these years. I thought the water pumps from the SBC's fit the BBC's as well. I love to learn more and more as I continue working on old rigs.

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The hub looks the same as all I've had with only 4 holes. What do you see different? I'm sure having yours rebuilt will likely cost a lot more. If you want me to look trough the NCRS "Driveline" for rebuilders, I can.
The 2 pumps I have in the thread pics both have dual bolt patterns and 8 holes. My fan uses the wider of the 2 so the hubs with only 4 holes won't line up.

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Sorry can't resist . I would not mind rebuilding my own short water pump. I know this thread is about a reputable rebuilder, Be nice to know where you can get parts for these pumps???? Sounds like a Saturday afternoon project. If you fail go buy a $20 pump until you get it right! At work they call them opportunities !!!!
If I had a press, or access to a press, I'd try rebuilding this on my own. My rig is torn down right now, so I have a lot of time to get this done. It's been on my to-do list to use this old pump for about 25 years! I'm curious as to the quality of rebuild parts as well now...

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The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

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I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
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Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
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Old 06-11-2016, 04:14 PM   #17
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I realize the you want it to work. I have never done it and am very curious! if it can be done with c-clamps or a vise.Anybody???
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