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gable74 · 10-02-2016, 06:45 PM

Still going over stuff on the GMC and getting a few things straightened out. Needed a new RVM, installed a new voltage reg., new battery terminals, added second battery to complete the dual batt. setup, etc. I noticed while checking things out that the 4wd shifter has a good deal of play in it both right/left and fwd/bkwd. It still shifts into all gears fine but it has a lot more play in it than the Chevy. The Chevy actually has zero play in it. I pulled the 4wd boot off and looked around in there and it looks like there is a 5/8 bolt holding the shifter pivot point to the tranny housing. The play looks to be coming from that pivot point but the bolt holding it on is tight.

Any feedback before I pull the shifter out to examine?

**jerry moss** · 10-02-2016, 09:54 PM

i've made shims to tighten up the shifter from plastic milk containers, they worked great and last for years. if it's really bad you can have it bored out and a brass bushing installed by a good machine shop.

gable74 · 10-02-2016, 10:17 PM

Interesting.......care to elaborate a bit for someone who has never done this before

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Thanks

bluek5 · 10-02-2016, 10:41 PM

I would pull the pivot bolt out to verify that it is correct. Someone may have installed a bolt without a shoulder for the shifter.

gable74 · 10-02-2016, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluek5

I would pull the pivot bolt out to verify that it is correct. Someone may have installed a bolt without a shoulder for the shifter.

That's probably a good idea. Where can I pick up a new bolt in case I find this is the issue?

Thanks,

bluek5 · 10-02-2016, 11:00 PM

I doubt the dealer would still have them. You should be able to find one with a WTB thread.

gable74 · 10-02-2016, 11:06 PM

Okay, thanks.

gable74 · 10-03-2016, 12:08 AM

Just noticed the grease fitting on those bolts in your picture. The bolts I have definately dont have a fitting so I bet I need the correct bolt. Thanks for the picture. I am going to use your picture in my WTB thread if you dont mind bluek5?

Thanks

**special-K** · 10-03-2016, 06:56 AM

These trucks didn't have the grease fitting, but the later ones that did will interchange.

joeydurango · 10-03-2016, 09:46 AM

Doesn't take much wear in the lever's bolt fitting to make for some real slop. While you have the current bolt out of there, take a look at the condition of the lever itself...

72again4x4 · 10-04-2016, 12:15 PM

Hi Gable,
Are you still in need of this bolt? I have one you can have if you like. I went with twin stick cable shifters for mine and don't need it. Send me a PM with your address and I'll get it in the mail.
Roger

**jeffahart** · 10-04-2016, 12:33 PM

You need to pull the shift lever and inspect it. You may need to have it honed, they get a bit raunchy under there. In that case you would need a sleeve bushing anyway. If you need to hone it then go online an find a shoulder bolt to the next oversize you hone to. Then you will have a nice fit. I did not hone mine, I pounded in some brass bushings and put in a standard bolt. I only put in about a 3/8" sleeve on each side of the shift lever hole. Works for now. I will do it up right one day.. maybe! Just pointing out that a new bold alone may not get you there.

gable74 · 10-04-2016, 12:35 PM

Thanks Roger! I already have one coming but I think there were a couple guys in my WTB thread looking for one.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=719266

**CUSTOM/10** · 10-04-2016, 02:00 PM

Pm sent to Roger ( 72again4x4 ) about shifter bolt !

Gary

**jeffahart** · 10-05-2016, 10:33 AM

My quick straight bolt with bushing fix works so nicely that when I have time I will get my shifter honed and get some nice plugs.

You can get a nice new strong bolt and get better movement from nice bushings.

Just in case someone reads this in the future and wants some ideas.

http://www.bronzebushings.com/plug-graphite.html

10-02-2016, 06:45 PM	#1
gable74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 344	Sloppy 4wd shifter Still going over stuff on the GMC and getting a few things straightened out. Needed a new RVM, installed a new voltage reg., new battery terminals, added second battery to complete the dual batt. setup, etc. I noticed while checking things out that the 4wd shifter has a good deal of play in it both right/left and fwd/bkwd. It still shifts into all gears fine but it has a lot more play in it than the Chevy. The Chevy actually has zero play in it. I pulled the 4wd boot off and looked around in there and it looks like there is a 5/8 bolt holding the shifter pivot point to the tranny housing. The play looks to be coming from that pivot point but the bolt holding it on is tight. Any feedback before I pull the shifter out to examine? __________________ 1972 K-20 Custom Camper 1971 K2500 Custom Camper (Sold) 2014 GMC 2500HD DMAX

10-02-2016, 09:54 PM	#2
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,936	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter i've made shims to tighten up the shifter from plastic milk containers, they worked great and last for years. if it's really bad you can have it bored out and a brass bushing installed by a good machine shop. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

10-02-2016, 10:17 PM	#3
gable74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 344	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Interesting.......care to elaborate a bit for someone who has never done this before . Thanks __________________ 1972 K-20 Custom Camper 1971 K2500 Custom Camper (Sold) 2014 GMC 2500HD DMAX

10-02-2016, 10:41 PM	#4
bluek5 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Lehi,Utah Posts: 1,330	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter I would pull the pivot bolt out to verify that it is correct. Someone may have installed a bolt without a shoulder for the shifter. Attached Images

10-02-2016, 11:00 PM	#6
bluek5 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Lehi,Utah Posts: 1,330	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter I doubt the dealer would still have them. You should be able to find one with a WTB thread.

10-02-2016, 11:06 PM	#7
gable74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 344	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Okay, thanks. __________________ 1972 K-20 Custom Camper 1971 K2500 Custom Camper (Sold) 2014 GMC 2500HD DMAX

10-03-2016, 12:08 AM	#8
gable74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 344	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Just noticed the grease fitting on those bolts in your picture. The bolts I have definately dont have a fitting so I bet I need the correct bolt. Thanks for the picture. I am going to use your picture in my WTB thread if you dont mind bluek5? Thanks __________________ 1972 K-20 Custom Camper 1971 K2500 Custom Camper (Sold) 2014 GMC 2500HD DMAX

10-03-2016, 06:56 AM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter These trucks didn't have the grease fitting, but the later ones that did will interchange. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-03-2016, 09:46 AM	#10
joeydurango Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Durango, CO Posts: 827	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Doesn't take much wear in the lever's bolt fitting to make for some real slop. While you have the current bolt out of there, take a look at the condition of the lever itself... __________________ 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super \| LWB, fleetside \| 350/350/205 \| KEEPER 1971 K10 Cheyenne \| SWB, fleetside \| LS Swap 5.3/4L60 \| SOLD 1976 Trans Am \| 400/4-spd \| SOLD 1976 Trans Am \| 455/4-spd \| TOTALED

10-04-2016, 12:15 PM	#11
72again4x4 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 179	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Hi Gable, Are you still in need of this bolt? I have one you can have if you like. I went with twin stick cable shifters for mine and don't need it. Send me a PM with your address and I'll get it in the mail. Roger __________________ 1971 K10 short bed step side, 5.3/th350/205, 3.73 gears

10-04-2016, 12:33 PM	#12
jeffahart Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,907	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter You need to pull the shift lever and inspect it. You may need to have it honed, they get a bit raunchy under there. In that case you would need a sleeve bushing anyway. If you need to hone it then go online an find a shoulder bolt to the next oversize you hone to. Then you will have a nice fit. I did not hone mine, I pounded in some brass bushings and put in a standard bolt. I only put in about a 3/8" sleeve on each side of the shift lever hole. Works for now. I will do it up right one day.. maybe! Just pointing out that a new bold alone may not get you there. __________________ White K20

10-04-2016, 12:35 PM	#13
gable74 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 344	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Thanks Roger! I already have one coming but I think there were a couple guys in my WTB thread looking for one. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=719266 __________________ 1972 K-20 Custom Camper 1971 K2500 Custom Camper (Sold) 2014 GMC 2500HD DMAX

10-04-2016, 02:00 PM	#14
CUSTOM/10 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sandown, NH Posts: 2,850	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter Pm sent to Roger ( 72again4x4 ) about shifter bolt ! Gary __________________ Gary 72 SWB 4x4 My 72 SWB Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259859

10-05-2016, 10:33 AM	#15
jeffahart Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,907	Re: Sloppy 4wd shifter My quick straight bolt with bushing fix works so nicely that when I have time I will get my shifter honed and get some nice plugs. You can get a nice new strong bolt and get better movement from nice bushings. Just in case someone reads this in the future and wants some ideas. http://www.bronzebushings.com/plug-graphite.html __________________ White K20



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