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52napco · 10-20-2015, 07:22 PM

Talk about dumb luck ..... Did my usual search on ebay and these popped up. Ive
never found another set so I started to submit a "best offer" but realized I should just cowboy
up. Think it's a great deal. I'm stoked ,need them for my 72 K10

http://m.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1971-GM-99...=1736063479015

**leddzepp** · 10-20-2015, 10:05 PM

Sweet those are the 72 style with the short arm attaching on the top of the door.

**jocko** · 10-20-2015, 10:21 PM

aren't those DG4 below eyeline mirrors? i.e. not WC jr's.
They are my favorite mirror on these trucks - perfect look. I do like the WC mirrors also though, but these are the best imo. Closely followed by the massive camper mirrors (they grew on me when I had em....)

tommys72 · 10-20-2015, 11:04 PM

Correct jocko, you know that though. Same mirrors I have on my 72

DarkFlounder · 10-20-2015, 11:08 PM

Please please PLEASE scan that installation sheet and post it!

**FirstOwner69** · 10-21-2015, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocko

aren't those DG4 below eyeline mirrors? i.e. not WC jr's.
They are my favorite mirror on these trucks - perfect look. I do like the WC mirrors also though, but these are the best imo. Closely followed by the massive camper mirrors (they grew on me when I had em....)

That's the common belief. However, the DG4s on my early '69 are listed on the SPID as West Coast Juniors. I think the name was carried over on the SPIDS from 1968 at least for most of '69 and perhaps into 1970. Might make an interesting poll question. See my SPID and the options list on the original purchase agreement below. However, your comment is correct for 1972 DG4s.

Beautiful mirrors!!! Looks like they sold for a best offer price.

52napco · 10-21-2015, 06:42 AM

Im the buyer. Paid the $195 for them. Needed them for my 72 K10. I felt like it was a
great buy since I've been looking for several years. My truck had this mirror set up in white.

Nitis · 10-21-2015, 12:09 PM

I have those on mine now. I have access to another set that has white frames that was originally on my truck that dad is using until he installs his sport mirrors

**special-K** · 10-22-2015, 08:27 AM

Congratulations on finding the mirrors you've been looking for that wee listed wrong by the year and name

at a bargain N.O.S. price!

The common belief that these are Below Eyeline mirrors is correct for '72. They are different from 69-71. The change was to make the larger mirrors more compact and not block vision so bad (which has always been the problem with west coasts). Gm calling the 69-71s Jr. West Coast is a misnomer, as they bare no resemblance to actual west coast mirrors. The ones they called Jr RV in '68 and earlier would have be more accurately named west coast jrs because that is actually what they are. I guess since they were a new design in '69 and they already used the RV jr. name, that would have better suited them, they grabbed the west coast name to avoid confusion with the prior mirrors... which didn't work

DarkFlounder · 11-06-2015, 07:21 PM

Bump in the hopes that 52napco posts a copy of the installation sheet.

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 11-06-2015, 07:57 PM

The below-the-eyeline types were necessary from '69MY on because the K/5s had no upper window frame to bolt into.
I love my old West Coast Jr's on my '68 Stepside. They were the perfect Cop-Spotters, at least before RADAR.
My '71 Jimmy's PO put on Square Body rear view mirrors. I hated them at first, and wanted to switch to period correct ''below-the-eyelines'' but after a while the square body mirrors grew on me -- maybe it's the 4:3 aspect ratio I grew up with watching TV. They are also below-the-eyeline.

52napco · 11-06-2015, 10:46 PM

Here is a pic of the instructions. If it's not legible pm an address and ill make a copy and mail it to u

factorystock · 11-07-2015, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

The change was to make the larger mirrors more compact and not block vision so bad (which has always been the problem with west coasts). Gm calling the 69-71s Jr. West Coast is a misnomer, as they bare no resemblance to actual west coast mirrors. The ones they called Jr RV in '68 and earlier would have be more accurately named west coast jrs because that is actually what they are. I guess since they were a new design in '69 and they already used the RV jr. name, that would have better suited them, they grabbed the west coast name to avoid confusion with the prior mirrors...

Well said

FlameOut · 11-07-2015, 12:49 PM

I tried to brighten the image, but it's still a little tough to read. I'd also like to have a clear copy of this. I've pieced together below eyeline mirrors for my 72 K10 and just guessed to the correct installation

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**special-K** · 11-07-2015, 09:31 PM

These are for my '72 when I paint it. I'll disassemble and polish them

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 11-08-2015, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

These are for my '72 when I paint it. I'll disassemble and polish them

Y'know, I think I have a pair of those very ones on my old '67 K/10 Suburban:"WhiteFang". I always thought they were aftermarket, but for a '67, they were. I think a PO put on a lot of light towing accessories on it.

**special-K** · 11-08-2015, 09:26 AM

GM sold mirror "kits" in their accessory program. But, looks like tose are aftermarket. The top arm is the give-away. GM mirrors had all arms made of tube and the aftermarkey versions used strap stock for the top one.

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 11-08-2015, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

GM sold mirror "kits" in their accessory program. But, looks like tose are aftermarket. The top arm is the give-away. GM mirrors had all arms made of tube and the aftermarkey versions used strap stock for the top one.

Yup. Flat top arm. So they are aftermarket after all.
The "fish eye" on the top drivers side miror vibrated something fierce - so I stabilized it with a section of EMT and flattened- and drilled holes thru the ends.
Of course that killed the below-the-eyeline look, but at the time I was already used to 20 years of West Coast Jrs.

DarkFlounder · 01-12-2017, 05:47 PM

Does anybody have a higher-resolution copy of the installation sheet?

Or, at the very least, does anybody have the measurements for the locations of the mounting holes?

Ed F · 01-12-2017, 09:54 PM

This style has shorter arms than the ones on my '70. Is that something that is model year specific?

**special-K** · 01-12-2017, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed F

This style has shorter arms than the ones on my '70. Is that something that is model year specific?

Yes, these are '72-only. The 69-71s had longer lower arms and the top arm bends down where it screws to the door. The elbow the head attached to is taller but the head is the same

**FirstOwner69** · 01-13-2017, 12:01 AM

Here's a link to a thread where I posted some things I've discovered about the evolution of the DG4 mirrors. See posts 11, 13, 14, and 15 for more info and pictures.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=7646102

**Tom Vogel** · 01-13-2017, 11:13 AM

We had those on our new 72 GMC when I was a teenager. Damn fine mirrors.

DarkFlounder · 01-17-2017, 01:44 PM

Without any real measurements, I just eyeballed it last night. Looks great, and it's so nice having decent size mirrors (instead of the sport mirrors that the PO installed).

The top bolt, next to the vent window, is a real ***** getting the nut on inside. Should have done it before I put the door together, but oh well.

10-20-2015, 07:22 PM	#1
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	NOS west coast jr mirrors Talk about dumb luck ..... Did my usual search on ebay and these popped up. Ive never found another set so I started to submit a "best offer" but realized I should just cowboy up. Think it's a great deal. I'm stoked ,need them for my 72 K10 http://m.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1971-GM-99...=1736063479015 Last edited by 52napco; 10-20-2015 at 07:22 PM. Reason: spelled wrong

10-20-2015, 10:05 PM	#2
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,995	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Sweet those are the 72 style with the short arm attaching on the top of the door. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

10-20-2015, 10:21 PM	#3
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,943	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors aren't those DG4 below eyeline mirrors? i.e. not WC jr's. They are my favorite mirror on these trucks - perfect look. I do like the WC mirrors also though, but these are the best imo. Closely followed by the massive camper mirrors (they grew on me when I had em....)

10-20-2015, 11:04 PM	#4
tommys72 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: springfield mo Posts: 3,075	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Correct jocko, you know that though. Same mirrors I have on my 72 __________________ United States Marine Corps 2000-2011 Iraq and Afghanistan veteran Just living life now and enjoying it and my wife, daughter and son

10-20-2015, 11:08 PM	#5
DarkFlounder Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 281	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Please please PLEASE scan that installation sheet and post it! __________________ 72 K2500 Sierra Longbed Wideside 350/TH350/NP205 66 Plymouth Barracuda 225 Slant6

10-21-2015, 06:42 AM	#7
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Im the buyer. Paid the $195 for them. Needed them for my 72 K10. I felt like it was a great buy since I've been looking for several years. My truck had this mirror set up in white.

10-21-2015, 12:09 PM	#8
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors I have those on mine now. I have access to another set that has white frames that was originally on my truck that dad is using until he installs his sport mirrors

10-22-2015, 08:27 AM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Congratulations on finding the mirrors you've been looking for that wee listed wrong by the year and name at a bargain N.O.S. price! The common belief that these are Below Eyeline mirrors is correct for '72. They are different from 69-71. The change was to make the larger mirrors more compact and not block vision so bad (which has always been the problem with west coasts). Gm calling the 69-71s Jr. West Coast is a misnomer, as they bare no resemblance to actual west coast mirrors. The ones they called Jr RV in '68 and earlier would have be more accurately named west coast jrs because that is actually what they are. I guess since they were a new design in '69 and they already used the RV jr. name, that would have better suited them, they grabbed the west coast name to avoid confusion with the prior mirrors... which didn't work __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-06-2015, 07:21 PM	#10
DarkFlounder Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 281	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Bump in the hopes that 52napco posts a copy of the installation sheet. __________________ 72 K2500 Sierra Longbed Wideside 350/TH350/NP205 66 Plymouth Barracuda 225 Slant6

11-06-2015, 07:57 PM	#11
'68OrangeSunshine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 7,165	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors The below-the-eyeline types were necessary from '69MY on because the K/5s had no upper window frame to bolt into. I love my old West Coast Jr's on my '68 Stepside. They were the perfect Cop-Spotters, at least before RADAR. My '71 Jimmy's PO put on Square Body rear view mirrors. I hated them at first, and wanted to switch to period correct ''below-the-eyelines'' but after a while the square body mirrors grew on me -- maybe it's the 4:3 aspect ratio I grew up with watching TV. They are also below-the-eyeline. Attached Images __________________ Every 25 years I like to rebuild that 292, whether it needs it or not. Last edited by '68OrangeSunshine; 11-06-2015 at 08:03 PM.

11-06-2015, 10:46 PM	#12
52napco Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: upstate sc Posts: 2,095	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Here is a pic of the instructions. If it's not legible pm an address and ill make a copy and mail it to u Attached Images

11-07-2015, 12:49 PM	#14
FlameOut Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 712	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors I tried to brighten the image, but it's still a little tough to read. I'd also like to have a clear copy of this. I've pieced together below eyeline mirrors for my 72 K10 and just guessed to the correct installation __________________ Bill 2004 Chevy Silverado Z71 Ext Cab 1500 1972 Chevy K-10 SOLD 1967 Chevelle SS

11-07-2015, 09:31 PM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors These are for my '72 when I paint it. I'll disassemble and polish them Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-08-2015, 09:26 AM	#17
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors GM sold mirror "kits" in their accessory program. But, looks like tose are aftermarket. The top arm is the give-away. GM mirrors had all arms made of tube and the aftermarkey versions used strap stock for the top one. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-12-2017, 05:47 PM	#19
DarkFlounder Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 281	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Does anybody have a higher-resolution copy of the installation sheet? Or, at the very least, does anybody have the measurements for the locations of the mounting holes? __________________ 72 K2500 Sierra Longbed Wideside 350/TH350/NP205 66 Plymouth Barracuda 225 Slant6



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01-12-2017, 09:54 PM	#20
Ed F Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Holland Mi. Posts: 302	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors This style has shorter arms than the ones on my '70. Is that something that is model year specific?

01-13-2017, 12:01 AM	#22
FirstOwner69 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wisconsin & Arizona Posts: 4,841	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Here's a link to a thread where I posted some things I've discovered about the evolution of the DG4 mirrors. See posts 11, 13, 14, and 15 for more info and pictures. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=7646102

01-13-2017, 11:13 AM	#23
Tom Vogel 2WD Jimmy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davis County, Utah Posts: 2,563	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors We had those on our new 72 GMC when I was a teenager. Damn fine mirrors.

01-17-2017, 01:44 PM	#24
DarkFlounder Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 281	Re: NOS west coast jr mirrors Without any real measurements, I just eyeballed it last night. Looks great, and it's so nice having decent size mirrors (instead of the sport mirrors that the PO installed). The top bolt, next to the vent window, is a real ***** getting the nut on inside. Should have done it before I put the door together, but oh well. __________________ 72 K2500 Sierra Longbed Wideside 350/TH350/NP205 66 Plymouth Barracuda 225 Slant6

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