The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Suspension

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-11-2017, 08:36 AM   #1
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
1965 4 wheel disc brakes

I wanna see if you guys have ever heard anything like the situation I am currently having. Ill try and sum it up. My truck has front and rear disc brakes with new master/booster and disc/disc prop valve. I have no brake fluid leaks! My truck has a perfect brake pedal until I hook up my vacuum to my brake booster. When I plug in my vacuum my pedal goes all the way to the floor with slight resistance. However Ive been driving the truck with it unhooked and it does fine. It all started after i replaced booster/master and installed rear disc. Anyone ever seen such??
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 11:07 AM   #2
chevy_mike
Never Ending Projects
 
chevy_mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 3,836
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Likely a bad booster. My buddy has done his '72 Nova and '68 C10 with CPP boosters and in both cases, they were bad right out of the box. Had them replaced under warranty and the replacements worked perfect.
__________________
.
1965 C10 Panel, Tiki Express http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=506580 SOLD
1968 Chevy C10, Long, Fleetside, Hot Rod Hauler http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313233 SOLD
1965 Chevy C10, Long, Fleetside, Hot Rod C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=415702 SOLD


We were given two ears and one mouth for a reason... listen twice as much and speak half as often...
chevy_mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 11:47 AM   #3
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by chevy_mike View Post
Likely a bad booster. My buddy has done his '72 Nova and '68 C10 with CPP boosters and in both cases, they were bad right out of the box. Had them replaced under warranty and the replacements worked perfect.
My booster is a MBM booster off ebay. But they already sent me another one and it changed nothing. Does changing booster size (diameter) matter any? I have a smaller booster than I did before.
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 02:00 PM   #4
PGSigns
Senior Member
 
PGSigns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hayes Va
Posts: 4,569
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

I would say there is still some air. The added brake line pressure from the booster is able to better compress it over the manual brakes.
Jimmy
__________________
60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131
Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need?
1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver
1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home
1965 Suburban
2003 3500 Duramax
2005 Ultra Classic
PGSigns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2017, 10:25 PM   #5
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by PGSigns View Post
I would say there is still some air. The added brake line pressure from the booster is able to better compress it over the manual brakes.
Jimmy
I have bled probably 3 pints of brake fluid through. I was getting solid fluid through it at the end. But Idk maybe I should try it again. It's crazy though because the pedals fine until I hook booster up. Then goes to the floor.
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2017, 06:34 AM   #6
PGSigns
Senior Member
 
PGSigns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hayes Va
Posts: 4,569
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

So there are two ways a master cylinder will go to the floor, air or its bad.
Jimmy
__________________
60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131
Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need?
1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver
1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home
1965 Suburban
2003 3500 Duramax
2005 Ultra Classic
PGSigns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2017, 07:17 AM   #7
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by PGSigns View Post
So there are two ways a master cylinder will go to the floor, air or its bad.
Jimmy
Could my bore size being too big or too small have any effect? I guess I need to get another master cylinder.
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2017, 10:41 PM   #8
jweb
Senior Member
 
jweb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,208
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Have you tried adjusting the push rod on your booster?
Here's a link to the CPP trouble shooting guide. There's a tool they recommend for checking the length
http://www.classicperform.com/TechBo...ot.htm#pushrod
jweb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2017, 07:40 AM   #9
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by jweb View Post
Have you tried adjusting the push rod on your booster?
Here's a link to the CPP trouble shooting guide. There's a tool they recommend for checking the length
http://www.classicperform.com/TechBo...ot.htm#pushrod
Yea my booster and master are correct. Im unfamiliar with the tool though? My master is deep and I had to add a piece between my booster because it was shallow. I added a piece that was included with booster/master. Ive seen some people talking about drilling the hole 1" lower in pedal but I havent tried that yet. I wasnt sure it would cure the issue I am having.
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 12:29 PM   #10
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Does brake booster size have any affect? My old booster was HUGE compared to this 8 or 9" I have now..
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2017, 06:21 PM   #11
jweb
Senior Member
 
jweb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,208
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by zach_carver View Post
Does brake booster size have any affect? My old booster was HUGE compared to this 8 or 9" I have now..
Most Disc/Disc set ups I have seen use an 8" dual booster and 1 1/8 bore master cylinder. Do you know what size your master cylinder is?

Here's a helpful article about Booster/Master cylinder combos:
http://www.mpbrakes.com/techtalk/boo...ur-classic-car
jweb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2017, 07:25 AM   #12
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by jweb View Post
Most Disc/Disc set ups I have seen use an 8" dual booster and 1 1/8 bore master cylinder. Do you know what size your master cylinder is?

Here's a helpful article about Booster/Master cylinder combos:
http://www.mpbrakes.com/techtalk/boo...ur-classic-car
No I dont know my bore size.. The guy I brought from off ebay is not much help. He wont even respond to me now. I cant seem to find mine even in 1 1/8 bore for sale anywhere so idk if they even make it in that bore. Im about to the point to just order a new different master cylinder and try that. Im lost lol
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2017, 09:24 AM   #13
jweb
Senior Member
 
jweb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,208
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

I would just go to your local parts store and buy a master cylinder for a late 60s or early 70s Corvette with power brakes. Those years of Corvette have 4 wheel disc and a 1 1/8 master. Only about $35 but I think they are shallow so your booster pin may need to be changed
jweb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2017, 09:47 AM   #14
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by jweb View Post
I would just go to your local parts store and buy a master cylinder for a late 60s or early 70s Corvette with power brakes. Those years of Corvette have 4 wheel disc and a 1 1/8 master. Only about $35 but I think they are shallow so your booster pin may need to be changed
I think ill try this. Thanks man! Ive got the different adapters for shallow and deep pocket masters. Thanks will report back
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2017, 10:18 AM   #15
jweb
Senior Member
 
jweb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,208
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Don't forget to bench bleed the master before installing.

I hope this helps, good luck.
jweb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2017, 08:11 PM   #16
zach_carver
Registered User
 
zach_carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Blue Ridge,GA
Posts: 508
Re: 1965 4 wheel disc brakes

Quote:
Originally Posted by jweb View Post
Don't forget to bench bleed the master before installing.

I hope this helps, good luck.
Thanks man, will do!
__________________
1965 C10 LS2/4l70, WHITE, 5/7 DROP

LINK TO SUPER SNOOPY C10 BUILD---> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=689283

1977 C10 SILVERADO HAWAIIAN BLUE, 5/5" DROP, LS6/4L80E

1976 CHEVY K5, 350/350, YUBA GOLD/SADDLE
zach_carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com