The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

vin63 · 01-02-2017, 07:27 PM

Since I'm almost done with my 1963 Pontiac Tempest Custom Convertible restoration project, I've been focusing on getting this running, so I can concentrate solely on the C10 this year. Bullet Racing Cams came through again for me with a custom hydraulic roller grind. I machined the block for hydraulic roller lifters. She is almost ready to run again.

**raggedjim** · 01-02-2017, 09:36 PM

The Tempest were neat little cars, the Pontiac engineers were really creative. I've got a 400 I need to get rebuilt for my firebird, but I've been putting it off. Nice work on the engine.

Rg

vin63 · 01-03-2017, 09:49 AM

Thanks!

I finished the new exhaust mock up enough to hopefully get it back up and running in the next week, or so, and then have it ceramic metallic coated.

Restored and coated the inside of the original gas tank:

Rebuilt and powder coated front end with disc brake conversion:

NONHOG · 01-06-2017, 04:26 PM

Very cool! Always wanted to see one with a modern alloy head and a 4-71 hanging off the side.

**HO455** · 01-06-2017, 05:32 PM

Like this one? There used to be a guy who drag raced one in the northwest that was in a Jeep. He was very quick and super cool. And I think Mickey Thompson used to race one in a rail back in the day.
Also great job on the Tempest! I have liked those for a long time.

vin63 · 01-09-2017, 02:54 PM

I believe you're referring to Roger Manson. He used to drag race his Jeep altered before he went land speed racing. Here is a shot of his blown Pontiac Trophy 4 at Bonneville:

Here's my little 4 bbl, hydraulic roller set up before dropping it in the Tempest:

2manycars2littletime · 01-11-2017, 10:16 PM

Love that HO/RamAir exhaust manifold hanging off the Trophy4!

Nice work!

vin63 · 01-12-2017, 11:10 AM

Thanks! I really didn't have too much choice...I destroyed the original removing it from the cylinder head (it was too corroded to save - it had that old exhaust heater crossover that ended up being a terrible exhaust leak). So I used the passenger side from a set of RA reproduction exhaust manifolds that were laying around collecting dust from a past project.

NONHOG · 01-12-2017, 12:31 PM

Love to hear some driving impressions (before and after upgrades if possible)
I enjoy the heck out of driving my kids 66 Volvo with a 4 cyl. Not fast by any definition but still a hoot to drive. Keeps up with in town traffic and makes great noises. (around town, freeway is scary and sounds like a sewing machine about to explode)

So I am hoping for a Youtube of this Pontiac running /driving.

Bigdav160 · 01-13-2017, 12:39 PM

Any pics of the transaxle? Automatic?

vin63 · 01-13-2017, 01:44 PM

It's difficult to photograph the transaxle since it tucks up into the recess of chassis behind the trunk pan and the floor pan. This is a another automatic transaxle on a lift.

vin63 · 02-02-2017, 07:18 PM

Almost ready to get this thing rolling. I'm waiting on my front seat, so in the meantime, I got the converted radio (FM/AM with MP3 port) and the new dash speakers tested and installed.

Pontiac Radio Conversion1 - YouTube

vin63 · 02-05-2017, 05:23 PM

Finally had some time to start up the Trophy 4 and double check the gauges...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_UdhIATyFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W0i0f-l7MY

**The Rocknrod** · 06-02-2017, 11:38 AM

You are indeed talented. Great work.

01-02-2017, 07:27 PM	#1
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,262	The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Since I'm almost done with my 1963 Pontiac Tempest Custom Convertible restoration project, I've been focusing on getting this running, so I can concentrate solely on the C10 this year. Bullet Racing Cams came through again for me with a custom hydraulic roller grind. I machined the block for hydraulic roller lifters. She is almost ready to run again. __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

01-02-2017, 09:36 PM	#2
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,496	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) The Tempest were neat little cars, the Pontiac engineers were really creative. I've got a 400 I need to get rebuilt for my firebird, but I've been putting it off. Nice work on the engine. Rg __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203 Ideas - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851743

01-03-2017, 09:49 AM	#3
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,262	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Thanks! I finished the new exhaust mock up enough to hopefully get it back up and running in the next week, or so, and then have it ceramic metallic coated. Restored and coated the inside of the original gas tank: Rebuilt and powder coated front end with disc brake conversion: __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

01-06-2017, 04:26 PM	#4
NONHOG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marana, Arizona Posts: 3,458	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Very cool! Always wanted to see one with a modern alloy head and a 4-71 hanging off the side. __________________ "I feel the need for speed!"... as soon as I am done with my nap.

01-06-2017, 05:32 PM	#5
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 11,382	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Like this one? There used to be a guy who drag raced one in the northwest that was in a Jeep. He was very quick and super cool. And I think Mickey Thompson used to race one in a rail back in the day. Also great job on the Tempest! I have liked those for a long time. Attached Images __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-09-2017, 02:54 PM	#6
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,262	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) I believe you're referring to Roger Manson. He used to drag race his Jeep altered before he went land speed racing. Here is a shot of his blown Pontiac Trophy 4 at Bonneville: Here's my little 4 bbl, hydraulic roller set up before dropping it in the Tempest: __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

01-11-2017, 10:16 PM	#7
2manycars2littletime Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Troy MI Posts: 14	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Love that HO/RamAir exhaust manifold hanging off the Trophy4! Nice work! __________________ Keep your head up...and your stick on the ice.

01-12-2017, 11:10 AM	#8
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,262	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Thanks! I really didn't have too much choice...I destroyed the original removing it from the cylinder head (it was too corroded to save - it had that old exhaust heater crossover that ended up being a terrible exhaust leak). So I used the passenger side from a set of RA reproduction exhaust manifolds that were laying around collecting dust from a past project. __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

01-12-2017, 12:31 PM	#9
NONHOG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marana, Arizona Posts: 3,458	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Love to hear some driving impressions (before and after upgrades if possible) I enjoy the heck out of driving my kids 66 Volvo with a 4 cyl. Not fast by any definition but still a hoot to drive. Keeps up with in town traffic and makes great noises. (around town, freeway is scary and sounds like a sewing machine about to explode) So I am hoping for a Youtube of this Pontiac running /driving. __________________ "I feel the need for speed!"... as soon as I am done with my nap.

01-13-2017, 12:39 PM	#10
Bigdav160 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Klein Texas Posts: 3,852	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) Any pics of the transaxle? Automatic? __________________ My Classics: '72 K20 Suburban + '65 Dodge Town Wagon '72 Corvette Roadster +'67 Corvette Roadster '73 Z-28 Camaro '63 Ford SWB Uni Pickup '50 Ford Coupe

01-13-2017, 01:44 PM	#11
vin63 It's Better With Nitro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,262	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) It's difficult to photograph the transaxle since it tucks up into the recess of chassis behind the trunk pan and the floor pan. This is a another automatic transaxle on a lift. __________________ 1963 C-10: Deluxe-optioned cab, shortbed, fleetside Pontiac 462 ci, Kauffman D-Port alum. heads 4L80E, narrowed sheetmetal Ford 9-inch Tubular front and rear suspension Custom 6-piston front disc and 4-piston rear disc brakes

06-02-2017, 11:38 AM	#14
The Rocknrod Moderator Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: China Spring, TX Posts: 7,280	Re: The Pontiac Trophy 4 195 ci (Half a 389 V8) You are indeed talented. Great work. __________________ Master Chief, US Navy, Retired 1964 C10 Step-side Short Bed - In Progress 2009 2500HD Duramax LTZ 1948 GMC Panel 1956 Big Window Stepside 1953 5 Window Chevy Stepside 1932 Coupe New Seat Foam for Bench Seats?



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