1952 3800 v8 conversion

[abig84]

Are the frames up front the same between the 3100 and 3800 style trucks? Building a 51 3800 9ft bed. After googling around for the mounts I need to slap a small block in it all I'm finding is stuff for 3100's

[mongocanfly]

3100 and 3800 frames are different...

[mongocanfly]

3100

[mongocanfly]

3800

[abig84]

OK thanks, so I need to find a kit for the 3800 specifically. Some of them looked adjustable but still always said for 3100. I'll keep looking, if anyone found one to work please post a link to what I need

[mongocanfly]

I havnt tried it..but go up to the advaced search bar and put in 3800 and see what you can find..

[dsraven]

if you have a stock front axle, solid, then you will need to find an oil pan etc that will clear when the suspension goes over a bump or to fully loaded. check what others may have used. then bolt the engine and trans together and drop it in for mock up. you can simply fab something up if you are handy.

[Port&PolishMan]

My Oil Pan is Stock _ SBC from Late 60's Early 70's
Have Room for a 7 Qt Pan .. Ground Clearance ? Bumps ?

No Issue , but running 19.5 Inch Wheels . .

[abig84]

im not going to use the factory i-beam or whatever the proper name is, doing a solid straight axle set up, basically a dana 44 front axle without the differential. so the truck might be slightly lifted when im done with it. if i gotta fab up my own engine mounts then so be it, i just figured it would just be easier to buy something pre-made.

[abig84]

Originally Posted by Port&PolishMan

My Oil Pan is Stock _ SBC from Late 60's Early 70's
Have Room for a 7 Qt Pan .. Ground Clearance ? Bumps ?

No Issue , but running 19.5 Inch Wheels . .

is yours a 3800? howd you make your motor mounts?

i just searched around this site typing in random key words like 3800 v8 and cant find anything. i just find it kinda strange that its not more common then im finding. i love building bigger trucks but a 1/2 ton seems like it would have been way easier

edit... after searching around the internet for like another hour last night i gave up, i found a universal small block kit made my trans dapt and ordered it, im sure i can make it work even if i have to modify it. held off on the trans mount for now as i have like 5-6 random ones laying around off 80s and 90s chevys

[Port&PolishMan]

PM - Sent `\ : - )

[Port&PolishMan]

Sorry it took Me awhile , but this is what I have . .
I Know Your Looking at that Location Stuff - Pretty Hard ..

Look at My Descriptions of these Pictures - Hope it helps ..
Take a Few Pic's to get a Full Picture . .

First Up Std. SBC Mount Upper .
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Second Up : Looking Back @ the Chassis to see Lower Mount section .
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Additional Material Added - ( After Location ) Obtained .
see Angle Iron welded into Top of Chassis Channel - Once Location Obtained !
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Here's a Better View - ( Once Location ) was Determined then the Additional Pcs - Were - Welded Then - Meanwhile Motor and Trans could be Slide Back or Forward ..
Actually - still See Slide Mark . . `\ : - )
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[abig84]

do you have any pics a little further away. those mounts look a little bit different then they sbc mounts im used to seeing.

i ordered a trans adapt universal v8 motor mount assembly which says it will not work for my truck for some reason but at least i have the mounts and something to modify if it does not fit

[Henry50]

I used this mount in my 3100 but it was too wide and had to cut a couple inches off each side, it's more of a universal mount. How wide is your frame?

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-59-...info/79%2D405/

[abig84]

Originally Posted by Henry50

I used this mount in my 3100 but it was too wide and had to cut a couple inches off each side, it's more of a universal mount. How wide is your frame?

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-59-...info/79%2D405/

yeah thats basically what i got. i forgot my exact measurements but it was pretty much right in the middle of what that universal mount said it would fit. so i dont mind cutting, im sure i could have made something from scratch but would have taken 10 times longer then buying something and modifying it a bit.

[Port&PolishMan]

Originally Posted by abig84

do you have any pics a little further away. those mounts look a little bit different then they sbc mounts im used to seeing.

i ordered a trans adapt universal v8 motor mount assembly which says it will not work for my truck for some reason but at least i have the mounts and something to modify if it does not fit

Type of Transmission ?

Yeah, I'd use that also Use a Full Brace all the way across for a 3100 Frame - those are Lighter ..

[abig84]

im using a 350 and 700r4 out of a 91 silverado. held off on getting a trans mount for the time being as i have a pile of them off 80s and 90s trucks so hoping i can get one to work

[abig84]

Originally Posted by Henry50

I used this mount in my 3100 but it was too wide and had to cut a couple inches off each side, it's more of a universal mount. How wide is your frame?

http://www.classicparts.com/1947-59-...info/79%2D405/

Do you got any pictures of where it's bolted in at on the frame so I can get a general idea, I noticed the frame narrows so don't wanna cut it too short or anything. Or any other advice you can give? Basically I'm down to just the frame and have the cab bolted up

I'm guessing I want it as close to the cab as I can get it.

[Henry50]

I lost all my build pics when my computer crashed.
I had to offset my engine to clear my steering box, but I don't think that's a issue on the bigger trucks.

I set mine as close to the firewall as I could get, with room to pull the distributor and valve covers.

[abig84]

Originally Posted by Henry50

I lost all my build pics when my computer crashed.
I had to offset my engine to clear my steering box, but I don't think that's a issue on the bigger trucks.

I set mine as close to the firewall as I could get, with room to pull the distributor and valve covers.

cool thanks, yeah thats the plan so far, might start on it this afternoon if get time. im not going to use the factory gear box if i can help it, going to try and get a power steering box on the outside of the frame somehow

[abig84]

Originally Posted by Henry50

I lost all my build pics when my computer crashed.
I had to offset my engine to clear my steering box, but I don't think that's a issue on the bigger trucks.

I set mine as close to the firewall as I could get, with room to pull the distributor and valve covers.

did you, or anyone else end up cutting into the cab? i just kinda set the engine in where i think its going to go and the bellhousing for the trans definitely looks like its going into the cab.

need to cut out that cross member in order to try and pop the trans and engine in there at once