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Old 11-02-2017, 06:42 PM   #1
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Re: Check PCM Tire Size - Rear Ratio

Here's my ego speaking in response to something you wrote below - I am in charge of an app with a few million subscribers, and our users have no problem giving us one-star reviews day one if there is the slightest bug in a new release. I only wish we could get away with shipping bad product and having a honeymoon period! My job would be so much easier!

OK, back to tuning now. I called another speed shop and the price quote was the same. $600-650 seems to be where the market clears on a good tune from a reputable shop in my area. I've been on this earth for 5 decades now and have learned the hard way that many times you get what you pay for, and there is no free lunch. When you cut corners, watch out because there may be dogs*** on the lawn that you'll step in!

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Thats something you'll find in any thread about build costs, and for a variety of reasons. Satisfaction/value, is a metric completely based on perception.

$20 on the east coast where median incomes are over $60k, is not the same as $20 in Arkansas. But thats a national metric with hard #'s that can actual be calculated.

Where it gets wild is when considering a consumers desire to appear justified. You'll see this on consumer review sites or in-the-moment (sometimes called NPS or Net Promoter Score). This is the idea that when a person spends their hard earned money, they WANT to be satisfied with the product...even if that means glossing over imperfections. When a new product releases (the gaming industry is a great example), there is a built in bias to WANT to love the game because you just spent $60...I mean, if you wanted the game to suck, why waste the money? This is often while you'll see reviews for new products trend downward as time passes, faults are found, and consumers disconnect from the product (along with the money they spent on it). Entire businesses are built on making items cheap enough, that even if they SUCK, they will have made their money on volume BEFORE faults are found and reviews are viewable.

Now, the cost-downscaling that some people do is a separate, yet related, concept. The source is similar (justification/vindication), but also includes a level of subconscious ego. That being the desire to highlight a desired trait; connections, thriftiness, cunning, luck. Saying you got a vendor hookup or "have a guy" (and I'm 20000% guilty of this) is a social posture. NOT saying you have a hookup if you do, is also a social posture, but one meant to downplay the advantages that person has, in favor of the image that it was their efforts alone. (this is what you call the Daddy's Money effect in builds).

This stuff all exists in most of our social interactions in life. Forums are just a fun microcosm which we can easily voyeur.

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Old 11-02-2017, 07:16 PM   #2
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Re: Check PCM Tire Size - Rear Ratio

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Here's my ego speaking in response to something you wrote below - I am in charge of an app with a few million subscribers, and our users have no problem giving us one-star reviews day one if there is the slightest bug in a new release. I only wish we could get away with shipping bad product and having a honeymoon period! My job would be so much easier!

OK, back to tuning now. I called another speed shop and the price quote was the same. $600-650 seems to be where the market clears on a good tune from a reputable shop in my area. I've been on this earth for 5 decades now and have learned the hard way that many times you get what you pay for, and there is no free lunch. When you cut corners, watch out because there may be dogs*** on the lawn that you'll step in!
Weird stuff happens all the time in tuning. The stuff that gets brought in will make you scratch your head sometimes. My Yukon had at some point had a really oddball cal thrown in it, before I ever owned it....yet even with direct access to the stuff, I still never got around to actually logging my truck to sort out problems until it was time for a full tune.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:24 PM   #3
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Re: Check PCM Tire Size - Rear Ratio

on costs diffrences I agree...this site has kinda opened my eyes to the differences of what something costs from east to west and south to north...sometimes its amazing how big a difference....what a guy pays for something is cal, there is no way I would pay that much here....one of the perks of living down here I guess...
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