Shoulder Belts on 67 CST - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

'72-454 · 11-18-2018, 09:04 PM

Saw this 67 CST for sale locally today. Buddy buckets and factory seat belts? Just wanted to see everyone’s thoughts on the belts! Unfortunately no spid. Seat belts are dated late 1966.

'72-454 · 11-18-2018, 09:06 PM

Also had plugs in the floor where lap belts would mount

weq92f · 11-18-2018, 09:13 PM

Someone else will have more detail but... the shoulder belt mount point was installed in all 67-72 C10s. Whether the 3 point harness was an option in '67... I'm not real sure but it was certainly available as an aftermarket upgrade for anyone back then that wanted it!

However, I strongly suspect that since GM installed the anchor, the belt would have been available as an option at order time.

Hth,

-klb

**leddzepp** · 11-18-2018, 09:18 PM

Someone took the plug from the pillar and put it on the floor. The factory shoulder belt should have a rubber boot retainer and the mounting buckle end should not be bent like that.

54Caddy · 11-19-2018, 01:23 PM

Looks like they moved belt from floor to the upper cab mount

weq92f · 11-19-2018, 01:26 PM

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FYI...
I have no idea what the law in CA is but in TX, even though the '67 did not come with shoulder belts standard ( and is therefore exempt from the seatbelt laws ), if they are installed in the truck the driver/passenger can be cited/ticketed for NOT wearing them!

-klb

**leddzepp** · 11-19-2018, 01:56 PM

Laws the same here.

68 P.O.S. · 11-19-2018, 02:04 PM

Yeah, someone slapped some lap belts up there. The spid will tell you if it originally came with shoulder belts.

firedemon · 11-19-2018, 09:19 PM

man that would snap your neck on the way to the steering wheel

AJC · 11-20-2018, 07:57 PM

Weren't the factory 3 point belt a 2 piece design? With 1 buckle for the waist and one for the shoulder.

**leddzepp** · 11-20-2018, 08:46 PM

They were two separate belts, two separate buckles, and a pain in the a$$ to use

hugger6933 · 11-20-2018, 10:12 PM

There wouldn't be shoulder belts without the lap belt. I too say the belt was moved from the floor to the cab corner

**flattie39** · 11-20-2018, 10:54 PM

Hey Guys - I'm new to the forum and new to C10s too. Just bought a 69 C10 Stepside and noticed the circular tab at the top of the B-pillar. If I understand this thread correctly, you're saying that is intended for 3 point seat belts? Punch out the tab and there's a welded nut behind it?
Thanks Ken (Was a Ford guy until I fell in love with this C10!)

**leddzepp** · 11-20-2018, 11:00 PM

It is threaded and you can add modern 3 point belts for safety. Welcome to the board!

**flattie39** · 11-21-2018, 08:01 AM

Thanks leddzepp, That's what I was hoping for. My 69 is bright red stepside with power disc brakes, A/C, and power steering. Still has a strong 250ci inline6 and 3 on the tree. Will post pics when I figure out how. Thanks again for the reply.
Ken (aka Flattie39)

**special-K** · 11-21-2018, 08:23 AM

Other than using different mounting hardware, this is all GM did for their factory option belts...with an absolutely necessary lap belt as well. I've gone all the way and built a few trucks with the factory shoulder belts. Was a fool for finding/buying those for years...had to have them! But after using these trucks I decided factory shoulder belts are great for a show ready restoration, but in the trucks I drive I'll take the modern aftermarket (or factory) 3 pts. Same as radial tires, good tunes, battery... there are better alternatives when vehicle is actually used to drive. I'd like to make that chrome 3-way male piece of buckle and have some proper 3 pts made up using stock width & original buckle. If a seat belt company would make a set like that in original colors they wouldn't be able to make them fast enough.

**NewBayColony** · 11-21-2018, 10:57 AM

Does anyone have any favorite aftermarket shoulder belts? I am adding them to mine. Thanks

**michael bustamante** · 11-21-2018, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NewBayColony

Does anyone have any favorite aftermarket shoulder belts? I am adding them to mine. Thanks

if I remember correctly, some guys use the 3 point belts from the square s10`s

Andy4639 · 11-21-2018, 08:56 PM

I used 99 Tahoe seats and belts in my 71 and 89-90 model seat and belts in the ramp truck.

11-18-2018, 09:04 PM	#1
'72-454 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 3	Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Saw this 67 CST for sale locally today. Buddy buckets and factory seat belts? Just wanted to see everyone’s thoughts on the belts! Unfortunately no spid. Seat belts are dated late 1966. Attached Images __________________ USA#1

11-18-2018, 09:06 PM	#2
'72-454 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 3	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Also had plugs in the floor where lap belts would mount Attached Images __________________ USA#1

11-18-2018, 09:13 PM	#3
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 3,228	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Someone else will have more detail but... the shoulder belt mount point was installed in all 67-72 C10s. Whether the 3 point harness was an option in '67... I'm not real sure but it was certainly available as an aftermarket upgrade for anyone back then that wanted it! However, I strongly suspect that since GM installed the anchor, the belt would have been available as an option at order time. Hth, -klb __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

11-18-2018, 09:18 PM	#4
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,036	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Someone took the plug from the pillar and put it on the floor. The factory shoulder belt should have a rubber boot retainer and the mounting buckle end should not be bent like that. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul

11-19-2018, 01:23 PM	#5
54Caddy GM Addicted Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Visalia, Ca Posts: 2,294	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Looks like they moved belt from floor to the upper cab mount __________________ ..Mac’s Garage.. 73 GMC, 54 Caddy, 2010 Silverado, 68 C10 RIP DAd My 73 GMC Truck Build Pic 2010 Silverado 4/6 on 24s IG:MacsGarage

11-19-2018, 01:26 PM	#6
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 3,228	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST . FYI... I have no idea what the law in CA is but in TX, even though the '67 did not come with shoulder belts standard ( and is therefore exempt from the seatbelt laws ), if they are installed in the truck the driver/passenger can be cited/ticketed for NOT wearing them! -klb __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

11-19-2018, 01:56 PM	#7
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,036	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Laws the same here. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul

11-19-2018, 02:04 PM	#8
68 P.O.S. Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 1,662	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Yeah, someone slapped some lap belts up there. The spid will tell you if it originally came with shoulder belts. __________________ 72 C10 lwb fleetside -stock 350/350 combo

11-19-2018, 09:19 PM	#9
firedemon Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: @ Posts: 890	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST man that would snap your neck on the way to the steering wheel

11-20-2018, 07:57 PM	#10
AJC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Le Sueur MN Posts: 209	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Weren't the factory 3 point belt a 2 piece design? With 1 buckle for the waist and one for the shoulder. __________________ AJC

11-20-2018, 08:46 PM	#11
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,036	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST They were two separate belts, two separate buckles, and a pain in the a$$ to use __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul

11-20-2018, 10:12 PM	#12
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST There wouldn't be shoulder belts without the lap belt. I too say the belt was moved from the floor to the cab corner

11-20-2018, 10:54 PM	#13
flattie39 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Walhalla, SC Posts: 26	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Hey Guys - I'm new to the forum and new to C10s too. Just bought a 69 C10 Stepside and noticed the circular tab at the top of the B-pillar. If I understand this thread correctly, you're saying that is intended for 3 point seat belts? Punch out the tab and there's a welded nut behind it? Thanks Ken (Was a Ford guy until I fell in love with this C10!)

11-20-2018, 11:00 PM	#14
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,036	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST It is threaded and you can add modern 3 point belts for safety. Welcome to the board! __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man RIP FleetsidePaul

11-21-2018, 08:01 AM	#15
flattie39 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Walhalla, SC Posts: 26	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Thanks leddzepp, That's what I was hoping for. My 69 is bright red stepside with power disc brakes, A/C, and power steering. Still has a strong 250ci inline6 and 3 on the tree. Will post pics when I figure out how. Thanks again for the reply. Ken (aka Flattie39)



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11-21-2018, 08:23 AM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Other than using different mounting hardware, this is all GM did for their factory option belts...with an absolutely necessary lap belt as well. I've gone all the way and built a few trucks with the factory shoulder belts. Was a fool for finding/buying those for years...had to have them! But after using these trucks I decided factory shoulder belts are great for a show ready restoration, but in the trucks I drive I'll take the modern aftermarket (or factory) 3 pts. Same as radial tires, good tunes, battery... there are better alternatives when vehicle is actually used to drive. I'd like to make that chrome 3-way male piece of buckle and have some proper 3 pts made up using stock width & original buckle. If a seat belt company would make a set like that in original colors they wouldn't be able to make them fast enough. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 11-21-2018 at 09:21 AM.

11-21-2018, 10:57 AM	#17
NewBayColony Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Northbridge,MA Posts: 494	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST Does anyone have any favorite aftermarket shoulder belts? I am adding them to mine. Thanks __________________ 72 C20 292 3OTT 77 GMC 2500 4x4 Longstepper 350 4sp 50 3100 ex Airforce/Town of Mendon fire truck 72 GMC 1500 2wd short stepside 250 4sp 78 GMC 2500 4x Longstepper 292 4sp 54 6400 Chevy 5 window 4 sp 2sp vac rear end Shell oil truck/dump truck (Norman)

11-21-2018, 08:56 PM	#19
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Shoulder Belts on 67 CST I used 99 Tahoe seats and belts in my 71 and 89-90 model seat and belts in the ramp truck. Attached Images __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

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