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Old 10-17-2019, 08:31 PM   #1
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Re: Troubleshoot this electrical problem

Replaced two fusible links, new alternator. Started and ran fine with my push button and a two handed screwdriver. Fuel gauge in and out. Tested the resistor and it seems fine, but it's been an issue since forever. Nothing seems burned out. I really didn't let it run long when it had the problem.

Took the column to a guy who redid it with new and used parts while I waited. Learned a lot watching somebody who knows what they are doing. Side note, the key cylinder that O'Reilly brought him didn't work. We had to take it back to the store and get one that actually turns. He installed and adjusted the new switch, but he made me take the old one home just in case. He wasn't impressed with the new one. Detents sloppy, etc. Guess what, it didn't work. Oh for two. I called the guy and he had me install the original, tweaking the adjustment so that it would fully engage the start function.

Burned wire on one of the ignition switch connectors. It's a small gauge brown and white wire that shares a terminal with a heavy orange wire. I traced it and can tell it's been an issue for a long time and doubt its related to the recent problem. The wire is a single silver conductor. Looped around the harness a bit and then went to the firewall connector. Looks like heat was an issue all the way. Couldn't get the firewall connector off because of course the screw that holds the halves together stripped out. I replaced the wire but would like to know what it does if anyone knows. It says on the diagram "omitted with 6 cyl gauges." My diagrams are incomplete screen shots and I can't really trace it. Anyone knows what it does?
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Old 10-17-2019, 11:04 PM   #2
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Replaced two fusible links, new alternator. Started and ran fine with my push button and a two handed screwdriver. Fuel gauge in and out. Tested the resistor and it seems fine, but it's been an issue since forever. Nothing seems burned out. I really didn't let it run long when it had the problem.

Took the column to a guy who redid it with new and used parts while I waited. Learned a lot watching somebody who knows what they are doing. Side note, the key cylinder that O'Reilly brought him didn't work. We had to take it back to the store and get one that actually turns. He installed and adjusted the new switch, but he made me take the old one home just in case. He wasn't impressed with the new one. Detents sloppy, etc. Guess what, it didn't work. Oh for two. I called the guy and he had me install the original, tweaking the adjustment so that it would fully engage the start function.

Burned wire on one of the ignition switch connectors. It's a small gauge brown and white wire that shares a terminal with a heavy orange wire. I traced it and can tell it's been an issue for a long time and doubt its related to the recent problem. The wire is a single silver conductor. Looped around the harness a bit and then went to the firewall connector. Looks like heat was an issue all the way. Couldn't get the firewall connector off because of course the screw that holds the halves together stripped out. I replaced the wire but would like to know what it does if anyone knows. It says on the diagram "omitted with 6 cyl gauges." My diagrams are incomplete screen shots and I can't really trace it. Anyone knows what it does?
Don't know what year your truck is but it might be as easy to go to the junk yard, find a vehicle with a key in the ignition (what I did, TRUE) and take out the ignition cylinder from that veh. I had the cheesy push button on my 98 for about 5 years, found a YouTube video of how to remove the steering column...while doing the research I think that video showed how to remove the ignition lock...that was the problem with mine all the time, the ignition lock one of the pins was bad. duh!! Ignition wouldn't turn all the way.
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:00 AM   #3
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I replaced the wire but would like to know what it does if anyone knows. It says on the diagram "omitted with 6 cyl gauges." My diagrams are incomplete screen shots and I can't really trace it. Anyone knows what it does?
This thread explains that tan/white wire, circuit #130. Note that I misunderstood this wire in one of my posts. Read Ray_Mcovoy's post(#4) to get the correct info.

This thread has links to Hatzie's scanned manuals, including full wiring diagrams.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:36 AM   #4
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Thanks for coming through here, kipps. I knew there was something different about that wire, which is why I wanted to know more. The fact that it’s a resistance wire makes sense given the heat issues it’s had. There was a place where a PO had taped up the burned insulation, but there were also areas I wondered if it had just happened. Makes sense since it was an alternator problem that started this whole dumpster fire.

Not sure if I will try a salvaged wire or the resistor. Probably the resistor.

Thanks again.
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