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Old 02-04-2020, 04:57 PM   #1
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swag to universal joint swap on steering

Hello all,

On my 66 Suburban the PO installed P/S but must have mis-drilled the holes. The power steering does not line up perfectly so the swag (steering coupler) though attached it does not bite well in the splines causing it to come loose (luckily I was going slow when it happened).

To fix this alignment issue I heard you can switch to a universal joint(s).

Does anyone have a write up on this or done it in their c10?

thanks
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:21 PM   #2
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

You can use a DD if you're willing to grind down shaft. Losing the rag joint will bring vibrations to steering wheel.
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

Here's the first set up before new colum
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Here's the first set up before new colum
Ok, so if I’m thinking of this right I notch after the steering place a coupler there then use a DD shaft and place another coupler at the power steering.

I’d have to find a splined coupler then to attach to the PS.

I have heard it will add vibration but I’d rather have that then the free flying steering wheel I just experienced.
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Old 02-05-2020, 10:46 AM   #5
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Here's the first set up before new colum
Did you grind that yourself or did you take it to a machine shop?
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

Cut, and ground at home, in place, then splurged on new colum. It would work but 3 on tree colum was just wore out and internals not working, blinkers on steel wire. Divot for set screws
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

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Hello all,

On my 66 Suburban the PO installed P/S but must have mis-drilled the holes. The power steering does not line up perfectly so the swag (steering coupler) though attached it does not bite well in the splines causing it to come loose (luckily I was going slow when it happened).

To fix this alignment issue I heard you can switch to a universal joint(s).

Does anyone have a write up on this or done it in their c10?

thanks
Maybe he could have installed the incorrect spline on the box side? Some PS boxes have 3/4"-30 spline output, most not. Some have 3/4"-36. Before you grind it down I'd check, maybe the fix is the correct steering joint.
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Cut, and ground at home, in place, then splurged on new colum. It would work but 3 on tree colum was just wore out and internals not working, blinkers on steel wire. Divot for set screws
Sick I'll probably be doing the cut and grind to add a collapsible shaft to mine
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

I’ll check the splines again and make sure I have the right swag installed.
I’ll also look into the setup for the universal joint and if I go forward I’ll post up pics and how-to.

It’s my understanding that there is a universal joint you can get that will attach directly to the spline without having to shave down the power steering spline.
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

Here is an example of the u Joint. https://www.cjponyparts.com/borgeson...oducts%20Broad
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

This looks like a complete kit for 179

https://www.cjponyparts.com/borgeson...oducts%20Broad
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

They also make a vibration reducer combo u-joint.
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

here are some not to good pics of my set up. Using a pick and pull 1972 Van tilt,
a 3/4 36 spline dd u joint and a collapsible lower shaft.

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straight shot from column to gear

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Old 02-12-2020, 10:46 AM   #14
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Re: swag to universal joint swap on steering

The column rods from a 67-72 will fit the 60-66 housing. I swapped mine out in that fashion and then added new bearings top and bottom. I then used Borgeson U joints at the column and the steering box as well as double D tube which was a cut to fit kinda thing. (I was able to get the vibration dampning style u joint for the box as mentioned by Rocknrod.) One U-joint alone will correct and angle but you'll need two to fix an offset. Borgeson's tech support helped me figure out what part numbers to buy and then I got them from Summit. Total cost not counting the 67-72 column was less than 300 bucks. Its your steering....fix it once and fix it right.

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