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Old Today, 12:12 PM   #26
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Re: Need help with alternator

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here is the back where the wires normally connect.

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would the best fix be tossing the current alternator and getting a SI and wiring it like this?

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Re: Need help with alternator

I have to agree with RustyPile that something is going on with the engine placement preventing the fan from lining up. Not that uncommon with K models as many that left the factory with I-6's and got converted to V8 's along the way. Judging from the your valve cover only I'm guessing the truck no long has the original engine.

If you want to correct the misalignment of the fan and shroud we will need more photos of the motor stands, the clearance between the firewall and the distributor, the transmission crossmember, the core support and radiator mounts.

I also understand you just wanting to get the truck running. Are you planning on using the truck as a daily driver? If so what summer time temperatures do you expect to be driving in? Would you expect to experience stop and go traffic? Knowing the answers to these questions will help us guide you to the right electric fan conversion for your needs.

There are hundreds of millions of vehicles with electric cooling fans on the road right now and they all were engineered to match the vehicle and its intended use. If you want the same success you need to do the engineering too. You also need to use quality components like the OE's do. They build and sell vehicles expecting them to see 115 degree weather and not overheat in stop and go traffic, for the life of the vehicle's warranty.

Avoid cheap parts as they were only designed to make you part with your money.

Your 10 volts at idle is common on many vehicles of this era. They were not engineered with stop and go traffic in mind. The rpm of the alternator at idle isn't enough to make the alternator charge by design.

No matter which path you chose to go doing the homework now will make for trouble free driving down the road. So trouble free you won't remember the work it took to get there.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: Need help with alternator

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would the best fix be tossing the current alternator and getting a SI and wiring it like this?

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Installing a 12SI is a good way to go. Is that one of VetteVet's schematics? If so you can count on it being correct. Going from your description you should take the time to inspect and verify your existing wiring is usable and still connected to the proper places.
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Re: Need help with alternator

The 10SI and 12SI alternators really don't like high amp versions. They are out there on Pontiacs and police cars, but they really are not as good as an upgrade. I would upgrade to a CS144 alternator and change to a voltmeter if you have an ammeter. Application 1996 Caprice or Roadmaster. You will have to change the pulley to a V-belt style. There are replies about the original electrical system not being able to handle fans and that is true. Any high output alternator will require bypassing the ammeter anyway. I would run a large wire (~8ga) from alternator to battery hot post and run all fan wiring also from the hot post on the battery. Use a relay to ignition power to turn off power to the fan if you don't want it running with ignition off. That way the original electrical system is left alone (besides the ammeter if applicable). If a single speed fan you can put a temperature switch in the head that provides a ground for the relay. If you want a 2-speed fan look into a Volvo relay/BMW temperature switch and you can do that too. Good luck with it.

IMHO the CS130 is not good for a paperweight so go ahead and get a CS144. The wiring is the same either way.
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