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67chevemall · 08-25-2004, 07:56 AM

So I go to the local parts guy to get a oil filter!
He says they have changed the #'s
QS 13 which I always used has changed to QS 5
And Fram also has changed he says!

Anybody know more about this?
Or is this guy on glue?

Perchjerker · 08-25-2004, 02:13 PM

Why in the hell are you useing those crappy filters for anyway? Go to NAPA and get a decent quality filter for only a little more money.

67chevemall · 08-25-2004, 02:37 PM

What's a good filter?filter man

I guess they are to fit more vehicles with the change!
I've never had one leak on me before hand tight, and this new crap did!

Perchjerker · 08-25-2004, 02:42 PM

I always use the NAPA brand, even on my Toyota's. They have cut outs of many different brands of filters at my local NAPA, and you can really tell the difference in quality compared to the other brands. The worst filter was the FRAM. The NAPA filters were almost matches to the factory ones.

Longhorn Man · 08-25-2004, 02:46 PM

Fram has roughly 1/2 the filtering media as the Wix made NAPA brand filter. I think it's a 1060 for a small block in Napa numbers.

jimfulco · 08-25-2004, 11:40 PM

AC changed to filters with anti-drainback valves & they use different part numbers from the old ones. Maybe the other manufacturers did the same.

Longhorn Man · 08-25-2004, 11:45 PM

I know the PH13 used to be the fram I used to use before I knew better and thought John Force would only push good products. I think it wentr to a ph-5 or something like that...
either way, it is still junk. I won't even put one of those on my stinkin lickoln...and I don't exactly take care of that POS.

Bruce68SB · 08-26-2004, 12:26 AM

I used the FRAM PF-13 for years. I picked that one because it was always the best fit on my faceted cap-style oil filter wrench.

I could also get them very cheap ($3.50) at places like K-Mart. Well K-Mart still sells FRAM, but they no longer stock that number.

So Pep Boys still sells the FRAM PF-13. However, they charge $5.50 for it.
Since everyone is so down on FRAM, I think I will switch over to NAPA.

68LSS1 · 08-26-2004, 04:35 AM

Just make sure you get the NAPA gold, not silver. Different manufacturers. NAPA gold=very good. NAPA silver=very bad.

08-25-2004, 07:56 AM	#1
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	QS 13 to QS 5 Fram 13 to Fram 5???? So I go to the local parts guy to get a oil filter! He says they have changed the #'s QS 13 which I always used has changed to QS 5 And Fram also has changed he says! Anybody know more about this? Or is this guy on glue? __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

08-25-2004, 02:13 PM	#2
Perchjerker Beer Power!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nacogdoches, TX Posts: 280	Why in the hell are you useing those crappy filters for anyway? Go to NAPA and get a decent quality filter for only a little more money. __________________ Rather be fishin'

08-25-2004, 02:42 PM	#4
Perchjerker Beer Power!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nacogdoches, TX Posts: 280	I always use the NAPA brand, even on my Toyota's. They have cut outs of many different brands of filters at my local NAPA, and you can really tell the difference in quality compared to the other brands. The worst filter was the FRAM. The NAPA filters were almost matches to the factory ones. __________________ Rather be fishin'

08-26-2004, 04:35 AM	#9
68LSS1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,191	Just make sure you get the NAPA gold, not silver. Different manufacturers. NAPA gold=very good. NAPA silver=very bad. __________________ '68 Short Step LS1/T56, Hydratech, Fatman Fabrications Stage III, Baer, Hot Rods to Hell, US Body, S&W, etc

08-25-2004, 02:37 PM	#3
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	What's a good filter?filter man I guess they are to fit more vehicles with the change! I've never had one leak on me before hand tight, and this new crap did!

08-25-2004, 02:46 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Fram has roughly 1/2 the filtering media as the Wix made NAPA brand filter. I think it's a 1060 for a small block in Napa numbers.

08-25-2004, 11:40 PM	#6
jimfulco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 3,170	AC changed to filters with anti-drainback valves & they use different part numbers from the old ones. Maybe the other manufacturers did the same.

08-25-2004, 11:45 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I know the PH13 used to be the fram I used to use before I knew better and thought John Force would only push good products. I think it wentr to a ph-5 or something like that... either way, it is still junk. I won't even put one of those on my stinkin lickoln...and I don't exactly take care of that POS.

08-26-2004, 12:26 AM	#8
Bruce68SB Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Pomona, CA, USA Posts: 90	I used the FRAM PF-13 for years. I picked that one because it was always the best fit on my faceted cap-style oil filter wrench. I could also get them very cheap ($3.50) at places like K-Mart. Well K-Mart still sells FRAM, but they no longer stock that number. So Pep Boys still sells the FRAM PF-13. However, they charge $5.50 for it. Since everyone is so down on FRAM, I think I will switch over to NAPA.



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