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**Canadian694x4** · 08-23-2004, 08:10 PM

Anyone on this board have a newer vortec 350 engine in their trucks? What type of mods etc. does it take to mount it in there etc, etc.? I'm pretty sure it has been done just wanna know anything I can about it. Pro's/Con's and the like...oh, any pics ya got of the setup too.

Thanks

Brian

Longhorn Man · 08-23-2004, 08:24 PM

You lookin to go fuel injected...or a carb on the vortec?

**Canadian694x4** · 08-23-2004, 08:37 PM

This is not to say I'm doing it but what are advantages to FI or a Carb on this setup?

Longhorn Man · 08-23-2004, 08:55 PM

IMO...Fuel injection will cost quite a bit more, and be way more of a PITA...running wires, computer, all the stupid sensors, modifying the fuel tank with a fuel pump and return line...however, in doing this, you can run the 4L80E tranny which is the best OD automatic hands down, you'll get better MPG, low end torqu, easy start ups...esp in cold weather, and it'll hold it's tune up longer.
A carb set up would be WAY cheaper, easier to do, (get special intake, and run a small inline fuel pump...that's about it) easy to troubleshoot and much cheaper to repair. (look at the price of the stupid new plastic dist that is needed for the FI set up) But a carb set up would not have all the plusses listed above, but it is way easier to tune, and is much more forgiving when it is not set 100% right.

I prefer the carbs just becouse it is cheap, easy to package, troubleshooting, and to tune.

The guys who love the injection will be posting here shortly to make me look like a hick.

(said in jest)

**Canadian694x4** · 08-23-2004, 11:10 PM

Thanks for the info Longhorn! TTT...

68C15 · 08-24-2004, 08:09 AM

Longhornman is a hick!!!! jk
IMO you couldn't pay me or even force me with a gun to my head to use the new ('95^) vortech injection! I work on these all day long & see way too many problems. my advice if you want injection go with throttle body. there is a manifold available for the newer heads. peripheral parts are a dime a dozen at salvage yards & they can be diagnosed with a simple voltmeter. not to mention how easy they are to set up in trucks like ours. TPI is nice but a pain to setup. just ask 71swb4x4.
Todd

Longhorn Man · 08-24-2004, 06:32 PM

The hick says stick with the carb.
Some one else HAS to say go with the F/I...give him some reason to do it.

68C15 · 08-25-2004, 07:07 AM

reasons to go with FI
remote start
self tuning for weather
too much money in the bank
you want more wires to work with
you want a check engine light
you have too much hair & want to pull some out

do you see where this is going? any one else have any ideas?

**Canadian694x4** · 08-25-2004, 02:23 PM

So is a crate 350 better than using a vortec 350 with modified intake etc.?

Longhorn Man · 08-25-2004, 02:50 PM

The vortec 350 is fine...but only with a carb.
And you can hook up a remote starter to a carb'd vehicle...I'm working out the details with a kit I was given last year. And a carb shouldn't need tunes for the weaher...although altitude is one thing that makes carbs suck...go through Denver without popping your hood on a carb'd engine.
My solution to that last one is simply...don't go to Denver.

Bobalouie · 08-26-2004, 03:22 PM

Depending on the year of Vortec, you may have to use an electric fuel pump with a carb setup due to the fuel pump pushrod hole not being drilled in the current blocks.

08-23-2004, 08:10 PM	#1
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	Engine Q's.... Anyone on this board have a newer vortec 350 engine in their trucks? What type of mods etc. does it take to mount it in there etc, etc.? I'm pretty sure it has been done just wanna know anything I can about it. Pro's/Con's and the like...oh, any pics ya got of the setup too. Thanks Brian __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

08-23-2004, 08:37 PM	#3
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	This is not to say I'm doing it but what are advantages to FI or a Carb on this setup? __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

08-23-2004, 11:10 PM	#5
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	Thanks for the info Longhorn! TTT... __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

08-24-2004, 08:09 AM	#6
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	Longhornman is a hick!!!! jk IMO you couldn't pay me or even force me with a gun to my head to use the new ('95^) vortech injection! I work on these all day long & see way too many problems. my advice if you want injection go with throttle body. there is a manifold available for the newer heads. peripheral parts are a dime a dozen at salvage yards & they can be diagnosed with a simple voltmeter. not to mention how easy they are to set up in trucks like ours. TPI is nice but a pain to setup. just ask 71swb4x4. Todd __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

08-25-2004, 07:07 AM	#8
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	reasons to go with FI remote start self tuning for weather too much money in the bank you want more wires to work with you want a check engine light you have too much hair & want to pull some out do you see where this is going? any one else have any ideas? __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

08-23-2004, 08:24 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	You lookin to go fuel injected...or a carb on the vortec?

08-23-2004, 08:55 PM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	IMO...Fuel injection will cost quite a bit more, and be way more of a PITA...running wires, computer, all the stupid sensors, modifying the fuel tank with a fuel pump and return line...however, in doing this, you can run the 4L80E tranny which is the best OD automatic hands down, you'll get better MPG, low end torqu, easy start ups...esp in cold weather, and it'll hold it's tune up longer. A carb set up would be WAY cheaper, easier to do, (get special intake, and run a small inline fuel pump...that's about it) easy to troubleshoot and much cheaper to repair. (look at the price of the stupid new plastic dist that is needed for the FI set up) But a carb set up would not have all the plusses listed above, but it is way easier to tune, and is much more forgiving when it is not set 100% right. I prefer the carbs just becouse it is cheap, easy to package, troubleshooting, and to tune. The guys who love the injection will be posting here shortly to make me look like a hick. (said in jest)

08-24-2004, 06:32 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	The hick says stick with the carb. Some one else HAS to say go with the F/I...give him some reason to do it.

08-25-2004, 02:23 PM	#9
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	So is a crate 350 better than using a vortec 350 with modified intake etc.? __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

08-25-2004, 02:50 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	The vortec 350 is fine...but only with a carb. And you can hook up a remote starter to a carb'd vehicle...I'm working out the details with a kit I was given last year. And a carb shouldn't need tunes for the weaher...although altitude is one thing that makes carbs suck...go through Denver without popping your hood on a carb'd engine. My solution to that last one is simply...don't go to Denver.

08-26-2004, 03:22 PM	#11
Bobalouie Fetzer Valve Technician Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Stillwater, OK Posts: 205	Depending on the year of Vortec, you may have to use an electric fuel pump with a carb setup due to the fuel pump pushrod hole not being drilled in the current blocks. __________________ 1972 Chevy K10 SWB



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