11-14-2024, 09:01 PM | #26 |
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It's your engine, but I wouldn't. Scoring isn't likely - and it's not fatal - but more likely the bearings are shot or there's low compression.
For an old engine, the best approach is to: Drain the oil as much as possible and replace the filter, filling the filter with oil. Replace the oil with a break-in oil, being careful not to over-fill. Pour the oil in over the rocker arms to be sure they're wet Pull the plugs and squirt a healthy amount of oil in the bores. Wait a day. See if it'll turn over by hand. If not...it's probably got Issues. If it turns over easily, remove the distributor and spin up the oil pump...if you can get pressure, and you get oil to all the rocker arms, you're probably in fair shape. Time it to 12+ BTDC, make sure you're getting gas to the carb and give it a shot. Oil pressure and compression will tell you a lot more about the engine condition than "cleaning it out", and few oil changes will get rid of most of that gunk - especially with a little SeaFoam solvent in there. Having done a lot of "barn finds", I can tell you that this is a case where "half measures avail us nothing" - either start and run it, or tear it down for overhaul. Anything in the middle is just going to end up breaking the engine regardless of it's condition. Just my $.02, and worth every penny I'll shut up - good luck! Last edited by Willshook; 11-15-2024 at 04:43 PM. |
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You can get a cheap borescope for about $20, which is a lot less than reinstalling the heads.
Chances are pretty good that a crate 350 will cost less than rebuilding the 283. Around here we have selfserve scrapyards where decent used 350s are cheap. |
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But if they are OK, you should also check the rod and main bearings while you have good access.
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My local parts store (Autozone) will loan a borescope with a deposit
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One advantage of a 283 is fuel economy. A 283 matched with an Impala often got 20~22 mpg. And Impalas of that era were not small cars. Sometimes it is fun to wave at the guy with the 383 + wild cam pulling into yet another gas station while you cruise on by. Don't be in a hurry to ditch your 283.
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I agree. There's a lot to be said for originality, and there's absolutely no reason why a 283 wouldn't work just fine in that truck.
I'd certainly try to get it running before going the cookie cutter 350 route. I'm allowed to say that because my 69 truck has a 350! But I sometimes wish I would have kept the 307. That 307 really woke up after I replaced the cam, noisy lifters, and timing chain (less than $100 back in 1990) and added a 450cfm 4bbl and dual exhausts. But it had >100K miles on it, so I used that excuse a year later to buy a crate 350. With a fresh bore and better heads, the 307 would have been better than new.
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I found some scratches in the walls of two cylinders that I can feel with my fingernail. Does this require a trip to the machine shop? If so it will be a trip to the scrap yard.
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How are the bore measurements? If in the acceptable range, pull the pistons, hone the cylinders, install new rings and run. For a cruising motor, don't worry too much about a couple of minor scratches in 2 cylinders.
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What about the wear ridge at the tops of the bores. Will the piston fit thru or will you need a tool to ream those?
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Ridge reamers leave a pretty rough edge with the expectation that the cylinder is getting bored and/or honed (not surface honed) and the pistons replaced, so a very light touch is required if no machine work is being done. Last edited by Willshook; 11-21-2024 at 06:36 PM. |
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Note that you still need a micrometer, which you noted you don't have, to zero the bore gauge.
Bores can be measured with a snap gauge/micrometer or an inside micrometer; a bore gauge is used to easily measure how the entire bore varies from a set measurement to find piston/crank-to-bore clearance and cylinder out-of-round, taper, etc. to plan boring. Last edited by Willshook; 11-22-2024 at 01:08 AM. |
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