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12-31-2024, 06:03 PM | #1 |
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No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Ok, I’m really getting frustrated trying to get my truck to return to center after a turn. I’ve done the “caster mod” documented many times on this site, moving my LCAs about 3/4” forward. Still no good. Today I finished installing new CPP UCAs that are supposed to provide 5 degrees of extra caster but still no good. The only thing that I can think of to do is put skinnier tires on the front. Right now, I’m running 275/60/15 tires all of the way around. Has anyone solved this problem while running wider tires? Here is what I’m working with:
1964 C-10, 350/TH350 1977 C-10 Spindles Stock LCA with caster mod New CPP 73-87 power steering box Suspension is stock height |
12-31-2024, 07:41 PM | #2 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Do you have alignment numbers?
Are the control arms on the correct side? Is the steering box adjusted too tight?
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12-31-2024, 09:50 PM | #3 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Arms are most definitely on the correct side. Steering box is new and I haven’t made any adjustments to it. Previous steering box performed exactly the same. Camber is near 0 degrees, toe in at 1/8”. Don’t want to have professionally aligned until I get this solved.
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12-31-2024, 11:32 PM | #4 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Perhaps post pictures of your steering setup and somebody notice something interesting.
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01-01-2025, 08:37 AM | #5 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
You can get some reasonable numbers by yourself with a simple inclinometer app on your phone.
I'm a shop teacher by trade. I explain wheel alignments in THIS VIDEO, and talk specifically about Caster at the 9:30 mark. See if this helps you at all.
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01-01-2025, 09:30 PM | #6 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Also, double check that your center link is installed in the correct orientation. They can be installed backwards which will cause all sorts of drivability issues
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Yesterday, 12:40 AM | #7 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
I have the same problem and the same setup. I set the alignment with angle finder, string and tape measure. Then had it aligned at a shop. She runs down the highway straight and smooth with no wandering. But it absolutely will not return to center on its own. The streering is very light - and i suspect the box is the problem with mine. While looking for a solution I found some good info about this on the Borgeson web site:
https://www.borgeson.com/steering-sy...esign-and-tech
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Yesterday, 12:56 AM | #8 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Pictures of the setup are a good idea.
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Yesterday, 01:50 PM | #9 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Those tires are pretty wide in front. I'd throw on some narrower wheels/tires just to rule out that the width is the problem or is contributing.
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Yesterday, 10:07 PM | #10 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
I had a poor return to center feel, and kind of a notchy feeling in the steering...turned out to be the nearly-new AC Delco "gold" ball joints. Replaced with MOOG and the issues went away.
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Today, 12:14 PM | #11 |
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Re: No "Return to Center" Steering Woes
Attempting to attach pics. Wow that actually worked, I will add more detailed pics this weekend. Also, I'm running about 15 degrees of caster.
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