The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-27-2004, 12:14 PM   #1
Custom 68
Registered User
 
Custom 68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 2,930
compression ratio and aluminum heads

Hey all, this may be too general but here it goes. I am running a set of 461 heads with 64 cc chambers on a 327 bored .06. I have flat top forged pistons. I figured I was around 9.5 compression Nothing (I believe) has been milled down. Does this sound about right? I have added tpi from an 86 it has been run on the chassis but not driven yet. I have a chance to get some 86 vette aluminum heads that are 58 cc chambers.
first does the guess comp ratio sound right?
will I be too high to go to the vette ones?
Is it worth the effort?
Currently I dont have access holes so I cant add a serpentine system but would like to?
Thanks
Dave
The cam is a computer friendly crane cam about 3 steps above stock but not the most aggressive they have.
again thanks
__________________
Dave
1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap
1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?)
"A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome".
"If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"
Custom 68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 04:51 PM   #2
Bobalouie
Fetzer Valve Technician
 
Bobalouie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Stillwater, OK
Posts: 205
Should be about 9.2:1, assuming a .025 deck height, with the 64cc heads and FT pistons w/ 6cc valve reliefs, and about 9.8:1 with the 58cc heads. Cut the deck down to 0 deck height, and you will get 9.7:1 w/ the 64's, and 10.4 w/ the 58's
__________________
1972 Chevy K10 SWB
Bobalouie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 05:00 PM   #3
MrGoodpliers
Registered User
 
MrGoodpliers's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Gainesville, Georgia
Posts: 704
Hey Fletch, maybe you can answer this one for me... I've heard that you can generally run 1 compression point higher with aluminum heads. Why?
__________________
We made Oklahoma a little after 3, Randy & his brother Bob & my old GMC...
MrGoodpliers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 06:58 PM   #4
64fleetside
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: arkieland
Posts: 1,070
Aluminum transfers heat to coolant quicker, therefore higher compression can be used w/o detonation. Brian
64fleetside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 07:35 PM   #5
crazy longhorn
Fabricate till you "puke"
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Ill
Posts: 9,403
10, or 10.5 to 1 will be fine with alum heads My 383 is at 9.8, with a fairly mild cam.....the shop that did the shortblock(Carshop, Moline Il), said just keep it under 11 to 1, if you cam it up, that will help. I run 90 octain fuel....6 intial on the timing., 32 total, + 20 degrees on the vac can (hooked to manifold vacumn). the curve is fairly fast for a "streeter", all in around 2600. at idle, she runs 26 degrees timing, & pulls 52 degrees under part throttle. That little sb dont spark rattle, & scares the chit out of this crazy old man (once in a while ). 4200 lbs of fun.....not quite hot enough for the strip, but too d@mn hot for the street! crazy L, havin fun
__________________
69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....
crazy longhorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 08:08 PM   #6
neonlarry
Registered User
 
neonlarry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Vacaville, CA
Posts: 2,746
Also your TPI is good for another ¼ to ½ point. Besides the fact that you probably installed a knock sensor which will pull timing if you have any detonation.
__________________
70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights
99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs
95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI
neonlarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 08:28 PM   #7
sam's 72
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Pasadena, Texas, USA
Posts: 1,005
I have those heads on my 383. This is how it is built. Block was deck to .005, 15cc dished pistons, quench is at .47, the heads were milled just enough to make sure they were squared up. I polished the chambers, which made them go from 58cc to 59 cc. The compression is around 10.0: to 10.3:1. I got these heads at a really really good deal. So I spent some money on them. I had bigger valves installed. and had them ported and polished. Gasket matched to intake and header. I just got my truck back on the road. The guy at the machine shop flowed the heads, I can not remember the numbers they flowed. but they are good enough to put out 450 hp. Have not had the time to tune it just yet. I have not got on it hard yet either. I did drop it into low gear at about 25 mph and nailed it and it just lit the tire up. I am haveing tranny troubles so next week it will go back to the tranny shop, and once I get it back, I am going to take the rearend out of it, shorten it, and put a posi with 4 56 gears in it. After that I will start the tuning on the 383.
Sam
__________________
72 LWB chevy truck.
Pasadena, Texas
sam's 72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2004, 10:04 PM   #8
68c10owner
Registered User
 
68c10owner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Carmichael, California
Posts: 3,006
my old 327 had kb 10.5 to 1 pistons( .100 dome) with 041 casting iron heads. i ran 16 degrees initial timing and 40 degrees total and it ran just fine on 91 pump gas. of coarse the custom ground schnider solid cam helped a little.
__________________
Anthony
68c10owner is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com