Oh no, AI can now replicate itself...

[weq92f]

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What a crock of $hit.

Headline on a Space.com article: "AI can now replicate itself, a milestone that has experts terrified."

https://www.space.com/space-explorat...erts-terrified

...the article quite plainly states that both test cases were trained, taught, coded, told, and/or instructed to replicate themselves if they detected a pending power down. WTF

Don't buy into the hype. There is no Intelligence in today's AI. Rather, each LLM is trained by feeding it a lot of data. Data specific to what the builder/coder wants a particular model to specialize in. Make it an expert in US History by feeding it mounds of related textual data then start asking questions of it. Because it's a Large Language Model complete with algorithmic tools at its disposal to parse out, analyze, "understand" and form a comprehensive response to a question, the result will certainly be grammatically correct, thorough and complete. Whether it's actually correct...well...YMMV, but the answer/result will seem like it was built by an "intelligence" but, alas, it was not.

If this is AI, the massive pile of shell scripts I wrote back in 2000 or so to bring Online a Replica of a large software/data stack within an agreed SLA upon major failure of the production system was AI too. The system I built back then essentially did the EXACT SAME THING.

-Kevin

[kingsolver72]

I would wholeheartedly agree.
I’m about a low tech as they come but, I’ve never bought into this AI is awesome.
Just a false god for some. I don’t have “Computer Brains” and would also agree with Greg X Volz.. “garbage in garbage out”. He was well ahead of his time.

[Steeveedee]

It's software. I've written a ton of it myself, but it was number crunching. Word crunching? Giving it a name with "intelligence" in it is silly, to my mind.

[68bowtie]

It’s just sophisticated programming. Programmed by humans.

[Getter-Done]

This stuff is not a Good Thing.

AI used to target kids with disinformation - BBC...

[Palf70Step]

As many of you are getting, AI is just a new marketing name for programming. Very sofisticated programming, but it does not learn unlesss the "person" puts in more code.

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by Palf70Step

As many of you are getting, AI is just a new marketing name for programming. Very sofisticated programming, but it does learn unlesss the "person" puts in more code.

Well Said.

That is why I still pay Cash for stuff.

I still visit my favorite Auto parts Store with the Old Guys.

I know I am Traceable but Given a small warning

I can become Untraceable.

I am still Old School

Can we still survive without the Net and a Phone . Yes.

[Myself]

My wife ALL THE TIME comes up with the craziest answers to things. A few weeks ago I just stopped her and said "WHERE,....are you getting all this false information?" She proceeded to Google search on her phone and show me the FIRST thing that shows up which is AI generated BULL$H!T. That crap just looks for the answer with the most clicks or something. I told her to look for an ACTUAL WEBSITE related to the question she has.

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by Myself

My wife ALL THE TIME comes up with the craziest answers to things. A few weeks ago I just stopped her and said "WHERE,....are you getting all this false information?" She proceeded to Google search on her phone and show me the FIRST thing that shows up which is AI generated BULL$H!T. That crap just looks for the answer with the most clicks or something. I told her to look for an ACTUAL WEBSITE related to the question she has.

A person can find videos of Abraham Lincoln speaking of results that happened this year.

That in itself is enough for me to Beware.

I will not post that video cause of the Po lit ic al Stuff
Here is a Nice example of History stuff.

History Brought to Life with Ai Magic Vol.2 |...

[Boog]

AI is, artificial.

[truckin 79]

I am no computer wiz but I know these newer quantum computers can solve very complex problems that would take conventional computers a long time to solve. Quantum computing is going to change many things especially in the realm of security and protecting the electrical grid and other computer controlled systems. Could it lead to self awareness probably not but if you want to go down a rabbit hole look into the quantum world and how this "could" tie everything together.
Anyway back to telling this computer what to do

[weq92f]

Originally Posted by truckin 79

I am no computer wiz but I know these newer quantum computers can solve very complex problems that would take conventional computers a long time to solve. Quantum computing is going to change many things especially in the realm of security and protecting the electrical grid and other computer controlled systems. Could it lead to self awareness probably not but if you want to go down a rabbit hole look into the quantum world and how this "could" tie everything together.
Anyway back to telling this computer what to do

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This is an interesting point of consideration. Thinking well outside the current physical limits we face with such things as computing power, parallel processing, bus speed, memory speed/capacity, storage density/speed, grid type infrastructure, node to node communication speed/density, wafer density, heat and all the other physical structures that make up our computing environments, it occurs to me that a sufficiently advanced (far far ahead of our current advanced state) computing environment (quantum?) could very well push the current form of AI into something completely new and different. Imagine a system that could sift, sort, analyze and actually efficiently use and leverage a data set 10 billion times larger than what can be handled today. Imagine that. Plug in your own numbers too...how about 100 billion times the current size of our largest data set. The computing power required is unattainable today.

Assuming we could just make such a thing appear right now and we had 50 years to understand how powerful it is and adapt or computing methods and overall thinking....could we then build true AI, would it become something it isn't because it can process and analyze entire planet sized sets of data in a fraction of a second? Not likely.

In fact, my contention is that even with limitless computing power and all the things that enable high speed analysis of data, what we would have is simply a very slick, powerful and extremely useful construct that we can bend around and utilize for our own benefits but, no, it would still not be Intelligent. That is...it would not become self aware and it would not be Intelligent as we humans define the concept. We don't even understand exactly what makes us self aware so how could we possibly build a computer model that does it? Sure. If said computer model is sufficiently far advanced such that it exceeds even our wildest guess as to how powerful it is, yes, it could easily seem as though it was something it isn't, even intelligent.

-Kevin

[Myself]

Originally Posted by weq92f

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This is an interesting point of consideration. Thinking well outside the current................................ it was something it isn't, even intelligent.

-Kevin

Well said. I agree with this. The programs are as intelligent as the PROGRAMMER that developed it.........which is why I don't own a cell phone, barely get along with this Android based tablet, and fight with my so called "smart" TV. I mean REALLY??? How smart can the programmers at Samsung actually be that there is no SLEEP TIMER button right on the remote and I have to toggle through no less than FOUR menus to access it. Again I REITERATE only as "smart" as the programmers. Now I don't claim to have more than about a 130 IQ even though I come from a family of "genuises"......BUT, I'm friggin' LOADED with common sense which seems to be completely lacking in the digital realm which is likely why the AI stuff hasn't moved any farther than it is.

Just one guys opinion......

[Lokin4AReason]

unfortunately to say , Ai isnt going away

heck g00gle is starting to use it within its search engine

so everytime you log in or see a g00gle ad , its following and tracking your brosing

besides that , i can careless about the bells and whistles it has to offer . nothing good is going to come from it , imo

but people can not seem to disconnect themselves away from tech either

its a double edge sword i guess you can say in a way