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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
if you have the equipment or access to the equipment you could disconnect the fuel system so the injector rails are isolated, then apply system pressure to the rails with the tooling and see if it holds pressure. you gotta have the fittings and a pressure source though. i suppose compressed air would work. same kinda idea as testing a natural gas line to a furnace etc. you gotta know the system pressure but that should be easy enough to find online.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
not familiar with the fitech system. does it have a schrader style test port on the injector rail? if so you could do a quick test by installing a gauge there, then turn on the key so the system primes and builds pressure, then key off and check the gauge to see if the pressure drops. this isn't the best way to check because there are other ways the pressure could drop, but it could give an idea. next up would be to check the area for any obvious fuel leaks around the injectors but, this only really shows external leaks. next up would be to pull spark plugs and look for a wet or sooty plug. next up would be to pull the fuel rails and injectors, leave the injectors connected to the rails. dry the injectors and watch the injectors for leaks while a friend turns the key to on, not start, to prime the system with pressure (again, not sure how the fitech injectors are retained to the rails so this may not work if there are no retainer clips, just the rails being bolted down is enough to hold the injectors in place).
otherwise pull the injectors and have them tested commercially, or replace them one at a time until you think you have the culprit, or replace them as a set. another thing I have done is to listen to the injectors, one at a time, with a stethoscope or a long screwdriver placed against your ear and the injector, and see if they all sound the same as the engine is running. pull an injector wire connector off one injector at a time and check the engine sound, then plug it back in and try another. |
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Thanks for the advise. I’m leaning towards upgrading them with either Bosch, Delphi or ACDelco. I’m seeing bad reviews on the FiTech and that makes me somewhat skiddish.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Good idea. Go with proven parts. It would be a sad thing to see another engine disintegrate.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Yes it would! My wallet can't take another hit like that! I ended up with a set of Edelbrock injectors and maybe it's my imagination, but it runs better & no more gassy smell or black smoke!
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Must say the cost alone lately allows zero tolerance for bad parts or worse, mistakes.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Got the engine in finally and it runs pretty good. I’ve got some popping coming from one of the cylinders and a few codes to figure out but making progress!
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Great progress!
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Thanks! I’ve come to the realization that I’m getting too old for this! I can’t take crawling around underneath this thing like I used too!
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
what kind of popping are you getting, out the exhaust, up the intake? possibly a cyl leakdown test would help you to know if you have a leaky valve due to a lifter issue or something like that.
grrrrr, hate that kinda thing, especially at this point. |
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Not sure. I should have replaced the valves when installed the cam but I wasn’t thinking, I only replaced the seals. I’m thinking it might be a bag plug too. I reused 7 from the 6.0 and stuck one of the old ones off of the 5.3. The 8th one was destroyed when the piston took a dunk.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
if you used the same heads from the donked engine maybe you have a valve leaking. it may be worthwhile to do a leak test on that cylinder if a new plug doesn't fix the popping. you could unplug the injector on that cylinder and see if that helps. no fuel in that cyl will cause a misfire code but may also show that cylinder stops popping because there is no big bang in that cylinder that could be forced through a leaking valve and cause a popping in the intake or exhaust.
put that cylinder on TDC ready to fire. install a compression tester with an airline connection on the end instead of a gauge. connect a pressure regulator to your shop air line and set to very low or no pressure on the outlet. connect that to the line coming from your compression tester hose. slowly increse the air pressure and be ready for the engine to possibly try and turn the crankshaft if your TDC location is not dead on. once it is under pressure with the valves closed you should be able to hear a leak in the intake ot exhaust if a vave is not sealing. |
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
No the head was trashed. I used the heads from the junkyard motor. If the spark plug doesn’t fix the issue, I’ll do the leak test as suggested. This will be right up my sons alley, he’s been working at the shop for one of the local dealerships & he’d love doing this sort of thing.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
if the spark plug doesn't fix it do a compression test, dry, wet. then do the leakdown test. also, confirm if it is popping back through the exhaust or the intake. confirm there are no vacuum leaks possibly with a smoke tester. a lean mixture can cause popping as well. you could do a hard run under load then check your spark plug color to see if it is lean on a cylinder or 2. if so then fix that problem as well
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
The spark plugs fixed the issue! I think it runs pretty good!
https://youtu.be/t5uGEv76oWA?feature=shared https://youtu.be/DvPjTUqWcLM?feature=shared
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Awesome!!!!
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
I've always been partial to the leather Hummer seats, but they were more than I wanted to pay (anywhere from $500 to over $1K). as luck would have it, I stumbled upon a set over the weekend for $75. The frames are different but I was able to swap them to the frame that I was using (can't recall what year). Gonna go with a black interior so some fabric dye did the trick!
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
what die did you use? my research on that just makes me more confused ...
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Duplicolor. It’s not made specifically for leather, but I’ve see a few guys use it with no issues.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Attachment 2418715I think they turned out pretty good. We’ll see how long it lasts.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Got started on stripping off the rustoleum paint job. Started with the hood using paint stripper. After three good coat, it barely removed anything so I broke out the flap disc and went to work. The old girl is in suprisingly decent shape. Going to paint it hot rod black.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Oft times, my ideas don’t match my skill set. The space between the cab & bed has always bugged me.since I’m in the middle of getting ready to paint, I decided to try to improve the aesthetics by filling it in. Still trying to even the gaps but I don’t think it looks bad.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
I’m realizing that I hate bodywork! I explored the option of having a shop do it but few want to work on older stuff and those that do want to charge a fortune. I started doing stuff on the inside while I regain my motivation. Even got the power windows dialed in.
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Re: '50 3600 re-do. Shortening things up!
Still tweaking it.
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