Randy & Jakes 64 4x4 SLOW build

[RANDY COX]

here's my new project for the winter will be painted the same color as my truck,detroit diesel green with white top...gotta try to make it a K-10..It's been a long time since I've built any models...



I have my glue and paint just gotta get started on it.. And yes I'll update with pixs...

[aotte1]

Randy,

RE: idle roughness

Probably not an issues, could do a leak down test on cylinders, and could check all valves are working correctly by checking valve lift as you crank over ( cam or broken spring). Rule out cam and cylinder issues.

Probably have done, check ignition voltage, are you getting good color spark, on all plugs.

What does a vac guage look like at idle?

Just a few things I thought of to consider.

Les

[argonaut]

I guess I don't see how air can get into the fuel system like that. The fuel pump should force the air out into the float bowl with the incoming fuel. Then the system is purged of air...how does air get back in? Unless the air backfeeds through the needle and seat because the pump isn't pumping enough and the bowl level is drawn down below the seat. I'm not saying that is 100% what happens, but its just my simple logic.

[RANDY COX]

I'm going to change all the rubber hoses, I found one from the pump to the line that was rotted and leaking could be sucking air. It did the same thing with the old carb. Except now it doesn't have hesitation ate half throttle. So any who I'll eventually get it figured out. Thanks for all yalls input and help..

[RANDY COX]

well I didn't get to work on the truck this afternoon. But the gentlemen did cut out the centers of my caps today at work with a lathe...




I have to help my son work on his truck on Sat. engine swap we've already got it pulled just have to lower another one in...

[TJ's Chevy]

Hubcaps look good Randy!

[RANDY COX]

well went out to the store this evening and came across this a C-10...I had to have it..






beside the one I'm building...

[TJ's Chevy]

For a second there I thought you had gotten another life size project. LOL! Cool model anyhow.

[RANDY COX]

Well after installing the HEI the engine is still having issues not running smoothly at idle, I got my brother to look at it and he said he didn't think that #3 cylinder wasn't firing, so I changed the plug to see if that would help and it didn't, so I started with the valves, started at #1 and loosened it until it really was clapping then tightened till it stopped and went through all the cylinders and it seemed to help some but it still has like a dead miss, so tomorrow after church I'm going to do a compression check Oh and it makes a noise in the front part of engine kinda hard to explain, my brother seemed to think it might be a wrist pin.. I have no idea, it even ran really smooth before I replaced the cam. I'm assuming the cam I put in it was stock. I may have to go through this engine after all or take a look see with the other 292 I have I do know that it runs, I wished it wasn't getting dark early and wished I had a garage I would get that other 292 ready to run hooked up to a radiator and see how it does.. Yada Yada Yada...

[RANDY COX]

Well went out there and changed the plugs and checked the gaps as I took them out and a couple were way off so after new plugs it does run better but still has a noise coming from engine.. Oh well aint it always something..

[RANDY COX]

I haven't done much to the ole truck been sick all thru Thanksgiving,I'm starting to feel better,I did order me a shirt from this place http://www.tabbdesign.com/ they have all colors and sizes an different model yrs..They had one that was 4x4 but it didn't have any color so I opted for this one..https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...9914388&type=3.

[RANDY COX]

I put tags and Insurance on the ole truck, Just waiting to go and get a Inspection..On the Road again. I just can't wait to get on the road again..

[61K10]

you're just about there!!!!!!!!!!!!

[argonaut]

Actually being able to drive it will be a big boost in motivation to keep going on the project!
Plus it is a nice holiday gift to yourself!!!

[RANDY COX]

Yea I actually bought the truck 3 yrs ago in Dec. around a week before Christmas..I'm sure I'll have plenty of bugs to work out.. I still have some rust above the windshield area then that will be all rust gone..then I can concentrate on the rest, oh forgot about the doors, oh well that'll keep me busy for a while.... But yea being able to drive it some will boost my motivation, Lord knows I got all kinds of things that need hauled to the dump..

[TJ's Chevy]

Can't wait to see it on the road.

[RANDY COX]

well I took the ole truck on it's maiden voyage, went to put gas in her, I still have to get an inspection atleast I had tags and Ins. she was very slow and sluggish I guess I'm going to have to check the timing I just kinda tuned be ear...cause the timing mark on the balancer is off guess it's slipped over time... I knew I was going to have some bugs to work out, man if that engine doesn't do any better than that then I might have to re-examine the power train...especially if she's going to be drinking the gas....

[TJ's Chevy]

10 degrees initial should be good for that engine. I remember having the single barrel on mine.....pulled quick in 2nd.....full throttle in 3rd..... And we were up to speed by 4th. It'll have better power when you fine tune it. And if that still isn't enough......well......we can talk about nitrous.

[RANDY COX]

you crack me up T.J. Nitrous really.. any who looks like I'm going to be getting some much needed fill dirt for the rear of my property I have about 40 to 50 feet that's useless, If I get that filled in I can put up another poor man's garage, what I mean by that is a carport garage.. what would be really nice is a concrete floor this time...and electricity...
that would be nice, then I will have a place where I can paint my truck myself....working out side in the dirt is for the birds...LOL....it really sucks having only 1 income...

[aotte1]

Randy,

Great news you had first outing.

Sure the 292 will get some power soon, lots of owners really like them. Down the road how about a leak down test if still need to work of tuning. Enough timing at lower RPMs can make good power.


I would go for twin turbos, maybe some are getting big HP in South America with this set up.

Les

[RANDY COX]

Les, yea once upon a time a had a compression checker, might be buried in my building, But I don't think there too expensive, I'll check that if it ever quits raining here even though it's in the low 60's.. No garage is the pits....looking forward to spring to start on something else on the truck whether it be the doors or inside of cab, I'm going to have to pull the windshield to fix rust above it. atleast I can be driving it...a work in process... maybe one Turbo but two might be over-kill.

[aotte1]

Randy,
Starting with one turbo is ok, you will get hooked and need another one soon.

I like the leak down tester vs compression because you can learn a lot more about your rings and valves with it. However, it does require around 100psi of compressed air to get a good reading. Also, maybe, find another truck/ car guy who has one. Engine/ racers guys are likely to have one you could use at their place.

Back on turbos, one of my first exposures to them was at the track on fun night, maybe a 66 or 67 Baracuda with 318 engine and home made dual turbos owner/ driver had made. Looked really crazy, but also so crazy fast. Car was all engine, and no suspension to handle the power once it came on. Would never race him because he was all over the track going down 1/4 mile. He also hand changed his street tires to slicks with a bar in the pits and wore a stocking hat even when it was 90 degrees. All this took place at 75-80 drag way in MD.

[RANDY COX]

Les, I'd say so I've seen some of those setups on YouTube.

[TJ's Chevy]

Here ya go Randy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-AJEkkR9I

[RANDY COX]

Well I went out today to get a sticker and they were busy so I left there and went to the dump I've had 2 TV's and a fouton bed frame loaded since Nov. got that unloaded came home and loaded up a recliner and the old flooring from our kitchen getting ready to lat some new down, I guess I'm going to have to get used to it with that 4 speed she did finally get her wound up to 55, I just have to get used to it, it's been yrs since I've had an ole truck she drives pretty good and rides ok, I'm off tomorrow so I'll head back for a sticker and stop by the dump so she's being put to use...I even cleaned out the cab and I can see the whole seat man what a big seat... I seen a a lot of rubber neckers lookin at my beast...I'm sure that I'll have someone wanting to know if it's for sale. My70 burb 4x4 a few yrs back on my first trip out people were asking if it was for sale, I said no I just got it on the road...But I'm sure yall have been in the same situation...But it was good to finally drive it and be in an ole classic truck... can't wait til warm weather hits so I can get started back on it... anywho Happy Trails...