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Toms67 · 11-27-2016, 05:11 AM

I don't have the stock Bell housing. I have one out of a 72 nova.

**LockDoc** · 11-27-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toms67

I don't have the stock Bell housing. I have one out of a 72 nova.

I can't help you there.

If it had a three speed and the bell housing cross member is still there you would be better off using the original '67 bell housing and clutch linkage and just bolting the 4 speed on to that.

Just my 2¢ worth

LockDoc

Toms67 · 11-27-2016, 11:21 AM

That would've been nice. Would have saved me some money. And time.

88fordf150 · 11-27-2016, 12:39 PM

Powder coated and rebuilt Muncie with an iron mid plate.

Toms67 · 11-27-2016, 12:54 PM

Wow. Very nice. What do you have for crossmember?

88fordf150 · 11-27-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toms67

Wow. Very nice. What do you have for crossmember?

I don't remember where I purchased it from. Summit Racing, maybe?

Toms67 · 11-27-2016, 01:50 PM

OK. Thanks.

Ken B · 11-28-2016, 08:25 AM

I would stay away from an M21 and M22 with a 3.08 gear set. First gear ratio is 2.20 in either one so you would be a dog off the line. M20's first gear ratio is 2.56 so that isn't as bad. I had a 69 SS Chevelle with a built 427 in it with an M-22. I had 4.56's in it and decided too try a 3.73 geared rear I had laying around for better cruising. Well, that flat out sucked off the line so I wound up putting in some 4.10's which was better... Find yourself a Super t-10 out of a mid to early 80's Z-28 camaro... I ran one for a while that had a 2.64 first gear ratio.. Tire size plays a big role...

CaptRMW · 11-28-2016, 09:20 AM

With 3.08 rear gears I doubt it would pull the sheets off the bed.

Toms67 · 11-28-2016, 09:49 AM

I have 373 gears. I'm going to give it a shot. Wish me luck.

CaptRMW · 11-28-2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Toms67

I have 373 gears. I'm going to give it a shot. Wish me luck.

67chevy_hotrod was trying to get the scoop on installing a 4 speed with 3.08 rear gears and Tom hijacked his thread thus the confusion.

**WorkinLonghorn** · 11-28-2016, 01:18 PM

They had a close ratio 4-spd option on these trucks called the New Process 435CR (M-28) which is a massive and very durable transmission comparable to the 465.

First gear is still pretty deep at 4.56-1 but with your 3.07 gears you would be able to use 1st gear especially with tall tires.

Gear spacing is pretty good.

I've got a 3.73 rear dif and 31" tires and I still use 1st gear if I'm starting on an incline or I have a load. Yours would be even more useful (with the taller gears), maybe up to 30-35MPH? But even starting in 2nd it seems like a very good "3 spd". that doesn't have that big jump to 3d that the 465 has.

Probably not what you are looking for, but good to know anyway I guess.

Toms67 · 11-28-2016, 02:22 PM

Sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread. Lesson learned.

11-27-2016, 05:11 AM	#26
Toms67 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sackets harbor ny Posts: 282	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding I don't have the stock Bell housing. I have one out of a 72 nova.

11-27-2016, 11:21 AM	#28
Toms67 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sackets harbor ny Posts: 282	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding That would've been nice. Would have saved me some money. And time.

11-27-2016, 12:39 PM	#29
88fordf150 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 473	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding Powder coated and rebuilt Muncie with an iron mid plate. Attached Images __________________ Brad handshoe

11-27-2016, 12:54 PM	#30
Toms67 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sackets harbor ny Posts: 282	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding Wow. Very nice. What do you have for crossmember?

11-27-2016, 01:50 PM	#32
Toms67 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sackets harbor ny Posts: 282	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding OK. Thanks.

11-28-2016, 08:25 AM	#33
Ken B Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: danbury, ct. Posts: 568	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding I would stay away from an M21 and M22 with a 3.08 gear set. First gear ratio is 2.20 in either one so you would be a dog off the line. M20's first gear ratio is 2.56 so that isn't as bad. I had a 69 SS Chevelle with a built 427 in it with an M-22. I had 4.56's in it and decided too try a 3.73 geared rear I had laying around for better cruising. Well, that flat out sucked off the line so I wound up putting in some 4.10's which was better... Find yourself a Super t-10 out of a mid to early 80's Z-28 camaro... I ran one for a while that had a 2.64 first gear ratio.. Tire size plays a big role...

11-28-2016, 09:20 AM	#34
CaptRMW Custom Sport W/T Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tarpon Springs,Fl & Annapolis,Md. ....................Quaint drinking villages with a fishing problem Posts: 898	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding With 3.08 rear gears I doubt it would pull the sheets off the bed.

11-28-2016, 09:49 AM	#35
Toms67 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sackets harbor ny Posts: 282	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding I have 373 gears. I'm going to give it a shot. Wish me luck.

11-28-2016, 01:18 PM	#37
WorkinLonghorn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Studio City, Calif. Posts: 2,865	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding They had a close ratio 4-spd option on these trucks called the New Process 435CR (M-28) which is a massive and very durable transmission comparable to the 465. First gear is still pretty deep at 4.56-1 but with your 3.07 gears you would be able to use 1st gear especially with tall tires. Gear spacing is pretty good. I've got a 3.73 rear dif and 31" tires and I still use 1st gear if I'm starting on an incline or I have a load. Yours would be even more useful (with the taller gears), maybe up to 30-35MPH? But even starting in 2nd it seems like a very good "3 spd". that doesn't have that big jump to 3d that the 465 has. Probably not what you are looking for, but good to know anyway I guess. __________________ '69 GMC C2500 Custom Camper, 8 1/2' bed, New GM 350, NP 435 Close Ratio 4spd. Trans., 3.73 Dana-60 open.Camper and Trailer wiring, PS, PB, AC, tach , three gas tanks, 2nd owner, Work-Truck supreme. Best $300 I ever spent.

11-28-2016, 02:22 PM	#38
Toms67 Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Sackets harbor ny Posts: 282	Re: Lookin for a 4 speed... need help deciding Sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread. Lesson learned.



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