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Commander Taco Bello
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Re: Shock Relocation
i'm not sure why your having the issues you are, but i would definitely run a panhard bar. at least the factory one, if not an adjustable one.
all of the adjustable panhard bar setups i've seen has the adjuster on the D side mount. |
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Re: Shock Relocation
Thanks I will install the bar and see what happens then.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Shock Relocation
If the top of the shock is mounted in the right location then maybe, just maybe, the lower bracket is was not made to the correct angle? You know they did not bend it enough to get the proper angle.
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Re: Shock Relocation
Mine dont look like that but I have an ECE trailing arm xmem...that have anything to do with it?
Did I put my shocks on upside down????
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Re: Shock Relocation
Not really I have seen this done on some performance set ups. Its done to reduce weight on your working suspension. You would have to put a sock on it though to protect the shaft from damage from dirt and debris. On these trucks though its is normally the other way.
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Re: Shock Relocation
the factory one is too long if your lowered and they sell one at cpp for 59.00 that is shorter, but it will eventually bend your pumpkin on your rear under heavy loads. thats why i went with the delux trac bar that is adjustable and also mounts from the frame to the trailing arm, alot better geomitry.
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Re: Shock Relocation
try flipping your shocks over like the pic above
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Re: Shock Relocation
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Took this picture to show the trac bar to a member here, its not mounted, but looking at the picture, I think I need to switch it around. |
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Re: Shock Relocation
thats not the delux trac bar kit, thats the short one, the delux track bar kit goes from the frame to the trailing arm right behind the shock mount...
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Re: Shock Relocation
I think it's a CPP "deluxe" track bar kit, not ECE.
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Re: Shock Relocation
I thought your trailing arm was twisted but it appears to be ok in that rear pic.
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Re: Shock Relocation
VDOG,
The first thing I notice on your upper mount problem is the bolts are definitely longer than the bolts on PunkRock's truck. I didn't get a chance to look at our set-up last night, but I will tonight, and I'll post some pics. Bowtieogre, Yes, I think your shocks are upside down ![]() Pete |
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Re: Shock Relocation
VDOG, I feel for ya having to go thru all this BS just to get your shocks installed!. I hope you get it all worked out soon.
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Re: Shock Relocation
Thanks 70C10, I will get back to work on the truck tomorrow and I will have a few more pictures to post. Plan on reinstalling the shocks and changing axles tomorrow.
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Re: Shock Relocation
jeez sorry to hear of your troubles.
I'm really starting to think that CPP is a good company to avoid buying from.First with the tubular control arms and now this. Really hope you get it figured out soon.
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Re: Shock Relocation
Rollie tell me about the tubular control arms, I did not hear who had the problem?
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Re: Shock Relocation
All gas shocks are a pain to install. The trick is to compress them farther than necessary & then as they extend back to full length, stab them in the hole (or on the stud.... some really high pressure gas shocks are worse than others).
Vdog, there should be a spacer that's roughly .50 ~.75" thick between the shock grommet & the lower shock bracket . It should be pretty big too diameter wise. In the diagram 71tahoe posted, it looks like the spacer you're talking about is the shock grommets 'sleeve'. If you don't have an actual spacer, use a nut w/a large washer. I had to space my lower shock eye over & used the nut/washer combo. I can get some pics tomorrow if there's confusion.
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Re: Shock Relocation
The problem is that apparently only select upper ball joints seem to fit w/o modifications.
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Re: Shock Relocation
^ what he said.I don't recall the name of the fella but there is a thread about it in the suspension forum.
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Re: Shock Relocation
Hey guys, this one has me scratching my head. We dropped my buddies 72 SWB Super Chayenne and we did not use the shock relocation kit. All we did was put in 4" dropped coils and the 4" drop shock (same brand as he is useing duestech? pardon the spelling) and we had no alignment problem with the shocks or the axle. We used the stock panhard bar.
I am starting to think if these extra parts are even needed? huero. |
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Did not get a chance to work on my truck this weekend. Probably today I will get started. |
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Re: Shock Relocation
The relocation kits do relocate the shocks - it repositions the shock at a more upright angle, allowing the shock to work as it was designed. I noticed a much improved ride after installing the kit on my truck which has a 4" rear drop. As the truck is lowered, the angle of the rear shocks moves more toward horizontal. This causes the shock to not move thru it's stroke as much, and thus is not able to dampen as it should.
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Re: Shock Relocation
Have you gotten the issue resolved yet? I feel for you, I just put the 5" drop kit from ECE in and it went pretty quick and simple. But I know from past projects how one little issue can turn into a huge headache of issues. Hope you've figured it out.
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Re: Shock Relocation
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Weekend was shot to heck and could not get anything done. Will post pictures of progess tomorrow. |
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