01-27-2008, 04:27 AM | #26 |
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That's why I had to sell my Blazer, apparently I built it wrong. 14bff, 8-lug d44, no lift & 33's. Guess I should have spent the axle money on an 8" lift, and 36's with stock diffs. Maybe on the next truck I'll get it right.
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01-28-2008, 08:33 AM | #27 | |
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Please are stupid! This is not meant toward any fellow forum members who havent upgraded from 1/2 ton status yet, its more of a statement that stems from 16 years working behind an auto parts counter. I believe the intelligent, polite people on this planet are FAR out numbered by morons, idiots, criminals & drug addicts. I know.....
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01-29-2008, 10:28 AM | #28 |
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I built my truck with dana60/14bff/410 gears/33" tires but I had a heck of a time finding a dana 60.
Without a doubt in Alberta 99% of the big lift, big rubber trucks I see are when I go to a city. Im sure most of these trucks are just mall crawlers. Worst conditions they would see would be an icey road. PS Some of the Jeeps I see in town must be scarey on the highway. Huge lifts to clear 35"-40" rubber on a little short wheel base jeep. Can you imagine what that would handle like a 60mph? Anyway im sure they just use them to drive around the malls with. |
01-29-2008, 11:54 AM | #29 | |
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01-29-2008, 01:04 PM | #30 |
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So I agree with everyone on the fact that there are way too many people putting large tires and lifts on 1/2 ton trucks. But I think a lot of the problem is people haven't got any idea how big you can go until it becomes dangerous. In my opinion, people that don't have money for stronger axles ( as suggested above) should rather leave the vehicle stock until they can get different axles, or get smaller tires. But what I am wondering is, what do you consider the maximum limit? Or more importantly how big can you go before it becomes slightly dangerous? Right now I want to lift my 1971 K/10. I prefer the look of 35'' tires over 33'' tires on these trucks. But how big would you go before it would be a strength issue. Would the stock power brakes work good enough? So, in summary, what is your opinion on the limit of tire size before 1/2 ton brakes and axle strength become an issue?
Chevy 1/2 ton, only driven on the street. Chevy 1/2 ton, mainly driven on the street but some easy off roading. Chevy 1/2 ton, used 50% on road & 50% off-road. Chevy 1/2 ton, used strictly off-road.
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01-29-2008, 01:38 PM | #31 |
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My 71 short bed has a 3/4 ton 44 and a 14 bolt. I run 37x14 iroks and no problems with the braking or breaking shafts. and it runs a 396. My jeep has a 360 and narrowed 1 ton. but it has 39.5 boggers. i have broke a rear axle shaft. And its a 14 bolt too. but i run a spool and heavy left foot. I got aftermarket shafts (dutchman) and i have no problems now. Currently im building a 500 plus hp 496 for my jeep and i think factory front 60 shafts are gonna be in a bind. So in other words, a mild big block or built small block, a front 44 or stock full float rearend should hold a 38 inch tire. Any bigger or getting wilder, front 60 and 35 spline or 14 bolt rear should be in order.
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01-29-2008, 08:12 PM | #32 | |
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Installing some braided front brake lines and a 3/4 ton master/booster would be on the 'to do' list if it were mine though. For the trail, 33's are about max for 1/2 ton axles to survive. shilo: nice sounding rides. Have anything running a doubler? |
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01-30-2008, 01:48 AM | #33 | |
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See its also your gear ratio that limits you. Example if your 1/2 ton has 3.73s then if you go bigger than 33" tires then your truck is going to be geared way to high for off road work. IMO 1/2 ton axles are not worth the trouble and expense of swapping in lower gears. Your better off just up gradeing to one ton axles that are already going to have atleast 410 gears in them. For a mall crawler/poser thats just going to be driven around town, 35" rubber should be okay depending on what you have for gears. |
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02-01-2008, 12:53 AM | #34 |
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You guys should spend a day or two on the college campus where I go. I can think of several trucks that I see on a regular basis that are the epitome of what y'all are talking about. The best part about it all is that most of these trucks are strictly pavement pounders. Hell, I know for a fact that my 2wd truck has seen more dirt roads and mud than one kid's 99-02 Silverado on 39s.
What I've found to be the common denominator among the guys that drive all these 1/2 ton trucks on 37s and on up are that they're spoiled rich kids (generally all from the same affluent area of Atlanta) who will do anything to appear more redneck and what is stereotyped as country. I really don't think most of them would have any clue about anything that has been discussed here, pure ignorance. With them it's all about the image.
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02-01-2008, 01:42 AM | #35 |
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"With them it's all about the image."
You are 100 percent correct on that one. Here in colorado its the same thing, except all the spolied kids drive a crew cab powerstroke on 38s. And why is it that evertime i pull up to a powerstroke at a light, they always want to race?
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02-01-2008, 03:04 AM | #36 |
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any pics of your trucks shilo?
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02-01-2008, 03:06 AM | #37 |
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ill try to figure out how to post some pics.
How do you put up a pic?
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02-01-2008, 03:59 AM | #38 |
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both rigs
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02-01-2008, 04:31 AM | #39 |
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Awesome!!!!
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02-01-2008, 04:50 AM | #40 |
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the 71
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02-01-2008, 05:33 AM | #41 |
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nice, bud, real cool trucks what's that bar on the front of the jeep?
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02-01-2008, 05:55 AM | #42 |
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its a removable towbar.
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02-01-2008, 06:33 AM | #43 |
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i see it now. with it black, the bumper black and the tires on both trucks black it kinda blended in on me. I do like that jeep
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02-01-2008, 07:21 AM | #44 |
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thanks, i love this jeep. heres a few more
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02-01-2008, 05:30 PM | #45 |
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Simple answer to original question is that as long as you stay off the curbs, 1/2ton axles and huge tires will survive in most mall parking lots!
Yukon jack, good point on your post, but please tell me those split rims are not still in service!
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02-01-2008, 11:20 PM | #47 |
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Yep, my split rims are still in service. As far as I know they aren't dangerous to use, the danger is when a tire is mounted or dismounted. I plan to use them until the tires are ready to be replaced, then I will get new rims.
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Heres my 1/2 ton diff
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nice, six lug floater! is it a 60 or what?
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