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Never Ending Projects
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Mine are the original one from a '68.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Yeah Mike, A buddy of Kevin's, Mark G. has a black "A" plate as well on his 68'.
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TILT COLUMN GURU
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
My 72 ends with a Z ??
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: west coast
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
There will always be decrepencies due to early or late year model, left over new vehicle sold the next year and lost plates that were replaced, but there is a sequence to California commercial plates. Commerical plates used only one letter, car plates used 3 letters.The new (yellow on black) 1963 plates, began with A on the left side.There were many different letters for 1963, because many older 1956 thru 1962 plates(black on yellow) were exchanged Generally 1964 was around N or P, 1965 around R or S or , 1966 around T or U, 1967 was V or X . Y or Z may be early 68 models. After letters were exhuasted around 1968, The letter A began on the right side. A and B around 1968, C and D around 1969, F G around 1970, H and J around 1971. L and K around 1972( plates now changed to blue with yellow letters). This is what I have observed on pickups with period plates 95% of the time. Remember commerical plates have only 1 letter during these years, multiple letters (3 letters 3 numbers are car plates).
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Chevy Truck Addict
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
I bought a 70 GMC C/20 from a fellow in Sacramento this spring. It was assembled in Fremont and, as far as I know, spent most of it's life in the Sacramento area. The plate number is 34 326 F. Don't know if this will help solve this puzzle but thought I would throw it out there anyway.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
I am planning to get some plates soon (mine were stolen about 10 years ago!)
Here is what I found on the subject... Hope it helps. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/about/lad/pdfs/yom/new_text.pdf CST350 |
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
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Life, Be In It.....
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
I did some work on the plates that I bought for my 68 and found that the plates were first registered in 68.
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Grand PooBaa Member
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: LA, CA
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Im the second owner of my 69 C-10. My plates start with a 77 and end with a D and they are black. Black and need to be restored, does anyone know what type of yellow that is on the numbers?
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
I'd like to hear from any California members
that have trucks with Black Commercial plates that end in a Letter. (2 numbers/ 3 numbers/ 1 Letter) Your truck would be a 1967-72 probably My question: Is there a "63" imprinted in the upper corner box? Thanks for responding! Wayne Weaver
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Wayne Sunny Rust-free Southern California Last edited by 19553100; 10-03-2010 at 04:10 PM. |
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
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EDIT: I see you corrected it in your post, thanks.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
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1970 ## ###F without a 63 stamp
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: West Coast,So.Cal.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
My dads 1971 GMC van was bought in Sept of 1970 here in Cali.
The black & yellow plate was 12 131 H.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
LiveWire 64,
Does the front Plate is there a "63" stamped into the upper corner sticker box??
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Wayne Sunny Rust-free Southern California Last edited by 19553100; 10-03-2010 at 04:39 PM. |
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Okay, okay!!!!
My '72 had black plates. So, a lot of water flows under the bridge from 1967 until 2010, right? The current build is a '68 non-op'd with white commercial plates. Can't get at 'em right now, so I don't know the sequence. But I have access to a set of black plates with this config: ABC 123 What will I have to do to use them?
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Not all 1963 series California Black plates have a "63" stamped into upper corner box. This applies to passenger and commercial plates.
Some Passenger plates did not have the "63" stamp near the last of the series. I've seen plates examples beginning with X with the "63" and without, same goes for Y. All the Z plates I've seen have no "63". My '69 Nova and Chevelle have their original Black plates and no "63"... I just never noticed. Commercial plates do the same thing near the end of the earlier format (starts with a letter) in 1966-68. All of the later format thru 1972 did have the "63" ( ends with a letter) Wayne
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: so cal
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Some dealers had their own staff pick up plates at the local DMVs. It was common for customers to return in a few days and we would install the plates and remove the paper ones.
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
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Man why does that sequence make me think of Michael and the Jackson 5? ![]() Not to sure what you want to use them on so I'll presume it is your beautiful truck. ABC 123 is a correct 56-62 (yellow/black series) and a 63-69 (black/yellow series) passenger vehicle plate sequence. Presuming you have a set of 63-69 black plates you'll then need to buy a 1963-1969 passenger vehicle for them or install a permanently mounted (bolted down) camper on the truck and/or never carry anything in the truck except people to use them. Carry anything but people in a truck with passenger plates and it's a BIG fine if you get caught. You might get away with a passenger plate on a truck without a load but this is my first truck so I've not researched what the California Vehicle Code (CVC) sections actually state yet. Most likely DMV won't allow passenger plates to be placed on a previously commercially registered because then they loose their weight fees. I need to know this information so I'll check the registration CVC's a little later but I really don't think passenger plates are allowed on commercial vehicles & P/U trucks. I currently have the original blue passenger plates (858 DXJ) on my '71 cab chassis but it was originally registered as a housecar. I believe once I put any kind of a bed on it or strip the Motorhome floor and front wall from it (their still bolted to the cab and frame) I'll have to get commercial plates before I can legally operate it or haul anything. It all depends on what the CVC says. Another option would be to sell or trade the passenger set for a clear set of commercial plates. Just check with DMV first to make sure your passenger plates are clear so you know what you have to sell or trade. Won't hurt to check that the replacement plates are clear first also so you'll know exactly what your getting before you commit to any transaction. By the way the actual CVC book is great to have. I've beaten a few tickets from peace officers that use the cliff note version to issue citations. I shocked a judge and prosecutor (and perhaps embarrassed them a little in front of their packed courtroom) when I made a motion for dismissal and showed them the law stating I couldn't be cited for the offense because I was a pedestrian. The look on their face was... well... priceless, and my case was quickly dismissed. Played the game their way and won, they couldn't get me out of their courtroom fast enough! A win for the little guy was a good day for me. ![]() You can get the CVC at the DMV real cheap and they make great reading. I get one every year. Cheers. My current and original passenger plate on my '71 class c motorhome.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
I've seen a few AAA NNN passenger plates on trucks but thought it was just a DMV error. Interesting.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
hmm...I wish I would have run across this thread when I was looking for YOM plates. But it looks like I got pretty close with other research cuz I ended up getting plates ending in D on my '69.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
Answered my own questions.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
For the record, my '68 C/10 Stepside had Black and Gold Calif. plates when I bought it in Pasadena in 1973.
10566A I had to surrender the plates to the ADOT/MVD when I moved to Arizona.
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
My '69 bought in Alhambra in july has black plates. #####E
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Re: 63-72 Calif Comm Black Plate sequence
my 1970 gmc came from the 1st owner. it has xx xxx d with no 63 stamp.
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