What is the best method to drop my truck?

[motornut]

Originally Posted by 1bad84silverado

What is the bolt pattern for the wheels? Like I said I'm new to trucks so I have not a clue.

or 5 on 5
stock "older" late 60/early 70s "GM cars" style work too

[J Knight]

Originally Posted by cory d

i flipped, with drop shackles and 2 cut coil. stock coils are too soft. my buddy has HD coils with 2 cut adn it rides great

I respectfully disagree with the cutting two round method. There is a pic somewhere here of you and your buddys trucks side by side and yall are both sporting negative camber. What your doing is saving $250 not buying spindles and burning up $200 worth of steer tires.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by J Knight

I respectfully disagree with the cutting two round method. There is a pic somewhere here of you and your buddys trucks side by side and yall are both sporting negative camber. What your doing is saving $250 not buying spindles and burning up $200 worth of steer tires.

I respectfully disagree with JKnight. An alignment shop is the first stop after cutting coils; they will correct caster, camber and toe.

K

[Keith Seymore]

I've done seven or eight trucks in my career with cut front coils and relocated rear spring hangers. Total cost was about $1.98 (for grade 8 bolts) plus an alignment.

Blue truck was probably 4/6; red truck is roughly 3/3. The red truck pictured has been a daily driver for 26 years and 200,000 miles with no issues.

K

[N2TRUX]

Keith, I dont think Jknight is talking about cutting coils in general. I believe he is referring to cutting 2 to 2.5 coils. You guys know I am advocat of cut coils as long as its done correctly. Cutting more than 1 to 1.5 max exceeds those boundaries in my mind.

[J Knight]

Im not saying it cant be done Keith, I just think its way more trouble than its worth. Longer alignment bolts hardly stay tight, the splined hole is cupped, and shims ocationally fall out. Ive been that route before too and hated it and every alignment guy my friends and I went to was pissed because of having to use a back up on the alignment bolts and had to reset the spring in the pocket everytime they lifted the truck. Its just the way it was back then.
Here is a pic back in 86.
PS disregaud the overdressed couple..its the only pic I can find of it. LOL

[J Knight]

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Keith, I dont think Jknight is talking about cutting coils in general. I believe he is referring to cutting 2 to 2.5 coils. You guys know I am advocat of cut coils as long as its done correctly. Cutting more than 1 to 1.5 max exceeds those boundaries in my mind.

Correct Ken, I was reffering to cutting 2 rounds.

[81Scottsdale520]

Originally Posted by 1bad84silverado

I didn't know you could do this just with a flip in the rear and cutting springs. How is ride quality when you go this route? Anybody? Aproximately when you cut one whole coil how many inches does the front drop?

It rides great. and im not sure about the coil question i'll find out once i get to working back on it. i was just planning to cut one coil at a time to see when it levels out

[gGMC DOG]

with 2 coils cut you will have to run longer bolts and a spacer to get back your alignment

[gGMC DOG]

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...3&postcount=13

[cory d]

Originally Posted by J Knight

I respectfully disagree with the cutting two round method. There is a pic somewhere here of you and your buddys trucks side by side and yall are both sporting negative camber. What your doing is saving $250 not buying spindles and burning up $200 worth of steer tires.

i did the negative camber by choice. i also shimmed the front of the UCA fo move the upper ball joint aft for more positive caster. and i toed the wheels out. i have plenty of room to correct the negative camber

[KQQL IT]

I don't like spindles on squares because the coil bucket drags before the pivot. Eventually the coil pushes thru. But I've only dropped 5 or 6 of them.
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[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by KQQL IT

I don't like spindles on squares because the coil bucket drags before the pivot. Eventually the coil pushes thru. But I've only dropped 5 or 6 of them.
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Weird.... I've dropped a similar quantity & never had issues w/the 'bucket' dragging to the point of the coil possibly pushing through when using dropped spindles (2.5 & 3" versions). The lower control arm pivots (bushings) take a beating sometimes but that's the nature of their location since they're the lowest part of the front suspension.

[motornut]

Originally Posted by KQQL IT

I don't like spindles on squares because the coil bucket drags before the pivot. Eventually the coil pushes thru. But I've only dropped 5 or 6 of them.
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I take it you mean lowered spindles
what kind
I wana do mine but keep the stock parts
heard of 2 cut coils is too much/loose

[Telecasterjoey]

I cut a coil and a half on mine, no issues!

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by motornut

I take it you mean lowered spindles
what kind
I wana do mine but keep the stock parts
heard of 2 cut coils is too much/loose

Originally Posted by Telecasterjoey

I cut a coil and a half on mine, no issues!

This is the Max I would ever recommend. My personal experience was 1 coil is just right, and 1.5 was too much.

Regardless, your best bet is to start any drop with lowered spindles. This will not have a negative impact on your ride, and you can use replacement or cut springs to go lower is you prefer.

[KQQL IT]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Weird.... I've dropped a similar quantity & never had issues w/the 'bucket' dragging to the point of the coil possibly pushing through when using dropped spindles (2.5 & 3" versions). The lower control arm pivots (bushings) take a beating sometimes but that's the nature of their location since they're the lowest part of the front suspension.

Ha I was 17 couldn't afford drop spindles. My buddy had them and they pushed thru but we may have tested the limits of the truck.
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[cory d]

Originally Posted by KQQL IT

I don't like spindles on squares because the coil bucket drags before the pivot. Eventually the coil pushes thru. But I've only dropped 5 or 6 of them.
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i havent hear that before. i would like a 2" spindle though, i need my ground clearence for some rough dirt/gravel roads

[1bad84silverado]

So I think I want some drop spindles and coils for fro.t and a flip for the rear now what parts should I get. I want good quality, good ride but a good affordable price not looking to break the bank. Let's keep in mind I want a 4/6 drop.
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[1bad84silverado]

Also forgot to mention obviously brands and where to obtain these parts.
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[northeimcustom]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140516966045...84.m1423.l2649

best price i found for mcgaughys drop spindles shipped.....

unless there is a vendor here that can beat that price.... ;-)

[cory d]

check the thickness of your rotors before you order your spindles. it will be 1" or 1 1/4". belltech and classic performance are popular drop spindles. i went with a western chassis flip kit, stong, fits well, inexpencive and came with new u-bolts. all can be found on summit

[fastnloud]

Originally Posted by cory d

i flipped, with drop shackles and 2 cut coil. stock coils are too soft. my buddy has HD coils with 2 cut adn it rides great

I've been thinking about trying to get some HD coils at a scrapyard. Does it matter if they are pulled off a 2wd or 4wd HD?

And, when you cut 2 coils on the HD's, it's about 4 inches drop, right?

Thanks.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by fastnloud

I've been thinking about trying to get some HD coils at a scrapyard. Does it matter if they are pulled off a 2wd or 4wd HD?

Thanks.

Yah - it kinda does, since 2wd are coils and 4wd are leafs...

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by cory d

i did the negative camber by choice. i also shimmed the front of the UCA fo move the upper ball joint aft for more positive caster. and i toed the wheels out. i have plenty of room to correct the negative camber

You have "toe out"?

That should result in dartiness and poor on-center feel.

The goal is zero toe (or slight toe in) at speed, which is typically 1/8" - 1/4" toe statically.

K