Low mileage 1970 C10

[Steeveedee]

You know, those people don't realize that that shape hat actually works to focus the mind control rays.

['68OrangeSunshine]

Originally Posted by Steeveedee

You know, those people don't realize that that shape hat actually works to focus the mind control rays.

Best shield from _alien thought rays _ was the USGI M1 steel helmet. When they went to the ''Fritz'' and Kevlars, etc. I knew the Pentagon had been turned by the Area 51 Beings and sold us out.

[cericd]

Haters gonna hate.

I was very skeptical too but as unbelievable as the "rust free from Ohio" story is, the evidence that shows this thing to be an amazingly well preserved original survivor is there. You just have to watch closely and know what you're looking for.

Regarding the reds/maroons, I think it's an optical illusion due to the lighting and handheld camerawork in the video. I don't see any sun fading going on. It's just that those original GM red interior parts and materials are a very bright red when the sun hits them and not as bright in the shade.

Very nice pickup indeed.

[Casper42]

Originally Posted by cericd

Haters gonna hate.

what is that suppose to mean? the only "hate" I see about any post in this thread is yours. There's no purpose for your comment

[cericd]

Originally Posted by Casper42

what is that suppose to mean? the only "hate" I see about any post in this thread is yours. There's no purpose for your comment

Your kidding right? Have you never heard the saying? Does it seem less "hateful" if I type a non familiar phrase like "disbelievers gonna disbelieve"?

I went on to say that I was skeptical at first myself. Truth be told, I spent more time than I should have carefully going over that video looking for remaining factory original details, because that's the type of thing I like.

The "purpose" of my post was to say that there is plenty meat on the bone to show that that truck is an almost unbelievably well preserved example of a 1970 Chevrolet pickup truck.

Also, a big thanks to 72_Tigger for posting this thread because this is my favorite type of classic truck. I likely would've missed it.

[cericd]

Regarding the SPID laminate, it's not unreasonable to believe it was a plant specific detail or possibly a late in the model year addition as was already mentioned. I thought that the laminate wasn't used until the 1971 trucks but 72 tigger showed an example of a 1970 Fremont GMC with the clear cover. The black truck in the video is a Flint built truck. So maybe they were alreadiy using the covers at that plant. My 1970 St Louis built C10 however, does not have the laminate.

This is the SPID from the truck in the video.

[Rust_never_sleeps]

Originally Posted by cericd

Haters gonna hate.

I'm not a hater, just a bitter man with a rock in my shoe ;-)

If I were trying to pass a fake SPID off as original, I'd probably make a point of scuffing it up a bit, because as Sherlock said:"People will believe the impossible long before the implausible"

My SPID shows more typical/plausible wear, but besides the one bugger in the corner it's pretty clean, and does indeed have the prophylactic cover in question. It's a 70 Fremont truck

[raggedjim]

I believe it. Nobody who is trying to get a truck to look good would stick the laminate spid protector on that crooked and carelessly.

[Loose Screw]

Anybody want to buy a bridge?.....

[Keith Seymore]

During the squarebody era the laminate cover would come and go (plant and model year specific).

I say this because when I was the line foreman for the fender set area (in Flint) one of my guys was the operator that installed the SPID label.

If it has fuzz/lint on it you know it is legit. He always stuck it to his shirt/apron first while he did all his other stuff and then slapped it in the glovebox as he was walking back to his bench.



K

[Keith Seymore]

As far as low mile / rust free in Ohio - it could happen.

Here is a 5000 mile '65 GTO in original unrestored condition. Stored in an unheated garage in Michigan.

https://www.hotrod.com/features/5000...w-still-family

https://over-drive-magazine.com/2023...athery-fabric/

In this case dad got sick and couldn't drive it anymore, so it sat for 25 years.

Maybe there is a similar story on the pickup.

K

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by Rust_never_sleeps

My SPID shows more typical/plausible wear, but besides the one bugger in the corner it's pretty clean, and does indeed have the prophylactic cover in question. It's a 70 Fremont truck

Thanks for sharing SPID photo. Being curious, what is the build month on blue decal inside of door? A pattern might be developing if they are late 70 builds with protective coverings.

[Steeveedee]

Mine is an early year build, September, '69. Fremont truck, no plastic on the SPID.

[Rust_never_sleeps]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

...If it has fuzz/lint on it you know it is legit. He always stuck it to his shirt/apron first while he did all his other stuff and then slapped it in the glovebox as he was walking back to his bench.
K

Back in my blueprint days, we'd do this to make a permanent sticker removable. Makes me wonder how many of those fell off over the years ;-)

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Rust_never_sleeps

Makes me wonder how many of those fell off over the years ;-)

Mine sure did.

Glued it back down with 3M spray adhesive.

K

[geunther]

Originally Posted by Casper42

I have never seen any truck tailgate "carefully" stored for decades - they're simply set aside, forgotten, lost, disposed of, sold etc - it's highly uncommon for someone to wrap them up or boxed up.

I actually believe the guy's words of "camper" is actually canopy/topper so perhaps the tailgate was just never removed. the very top of the tailgate appears to have rub marks common with canopy/topper when that glass swing up door makes contact with the tailgate.

Originally Posted by Casper42

I have never seen any truck tailgate "carefully" stored for decades - they're simply set aside, forgotten, lost, disposed of, sold etc - it's highly uncommon for someone to wrap them up or boxed up.

I actually believe the guy's words of "camper" is actually canopy/topper so perhaps the tailgate was just never removed. the very top of the tailgate appears to have rub marks common with canopy/topper when that glass swing up door makes contact with the tailgate.

I too believe the tailgate would have remained on. The video shows holes on top of the bed rail indicating a bolt on topper. Again, if this was a restored truck, that hole would have almost certainly been filled.

The screen shot shows some wear on top of the tailgate consistent with a camper shell fold down door.

The only date codes visible were the build date and seat belt dates. They were consistent with July 70 build date (seatbelts May, 70).

Everything I've seen is consistent with it being original and as the narrator described. I found nothing consistent with it being faked.

Not trying to change anyone's opinion.

[71meangreenc10]

Originally Posted by Steeveedee

Mine is an early year build, September, '69. Fremont truck, no plastic on the SPID.

My 70 Burb is a Dec 69 Fremont build, no plastic on the SPID.

Smitty

[Rust_never_sleeps]

Originally Posted by factorystock

Thanks for sharing SPID photo. Being curious, what is the build month on blue decal inside of door? A pattern might be developing if they are late 70 builds with protective coverings.

Build date is 6/70

[geunther]

Originally Posted by Rust_never_sleeps

Build date is 6/70

Decal shoes 7.

[Rust_never_sleeps]

Originally Posted by geunther

Decal shoes 7.

Mine, not Black Beauty ;-)

[cericd]

Here are a "few" things that make me believe this is a low mileage well preserved original truck and not a meticulous restoration. This is not an exhaustive list by any means. Just things I happened to notice.

It's a long bed.

It still has:

An original inner and outer grill. Both in pristine condition. That original outer grill was only available installed from the factory. By the time it was offered as a replacement part the stamping for the horizontal black lines had changed.

Factory misaligned lower molding.

Factory sloppy painted lettering on the tailgate.

Unpainted (likely stainless) screws used on the cowl panel.

Factory 8-307 sticker on the passenger side valve cover. Still in pretty nice shape.

Tower clamps throughout the engine compartment. (With the finishes looking almost new)

What appears to be a wax pencil mark "3" on the engine.

Correct seat material (tough but not impossible to source these days)

Red steering wheel with the correct factory grain pattern (not the rough sandpaper pattern used on the repops) in pristine condition. Find me another red wheel in this condition and tell me you're not going to sell it for tip top dollar instead of "wasting" it on a long bed truck.

Paint wear and bolt holes on bed rails consistent with the use of some sort of camper shell.

Condition and finishes of the fasteners ALL over this thing, glove box, door sills, engine compartment, etc.

It remains a long bed.


Some of these things could be reproduced or replicated but c'mon, you're gonna do all that work and leave holes and paint wear on the bed rails and not mask and paint those tailgate letters perfectly straight, not to mention the crooked trim, and ... I mean really.

[cericd]

More screenshot examples.

[Loose Screw]

Ok, Ok, sure this truck is nice but there are at least 10 other trucks I'd rather have even if they had 50K+ miles on them and had a few paint jobs...

[cericd]

Originally Posted by Loose Screw

Ok, Ok, sure this truck is nice but there are at least 10 other trucks I'd rather have even if they had 50K+ miles on them and had a few paint jobs...

Lol! I'm not trying to sell anyone on this truck. I'm sure there are WAY more than 10 trucks I'd rather own than this one. Maybe not even Chevys. I'm just pointing out how special it is to someone who likes them truly stock. For people that appreciate original details, there are a lot of tell tale signs that point to its authenticity. Is the mileage true, who knows? I'm not discussing that, I'm purely looking at it from an originality and condition perspective. In that respect, I find it to be pretty damned special. At least in my eyes.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by cericd

I'm purely looking at it from an originality and condition perspective. In that respect, I find it to be pretty damned special. At least in my eyes.

Thanks for taking the time do compile a very through list of convincing features. I'm with you on this one, we are seeing a true time capsule.