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04-25-2011, 01:05 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
So i clicked the option of boring it .030 over, and balanced, it came to 977 bucks. What all else would be needed to build it. Wanting to keep it cheap as possible. Would the best bet be buying this kit, then buying all new gaskets and putting it together? or buying an additional rebuild kit with it?
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04-25-2011, 01:22 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
Probably, but you will need to factor in the machining costs at the machine shop..
although this might be a better way to go.... it may in fact be cheaper to buy this already assembled short block http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/produ...31&CtgID=35015 http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/produ...66&CtgID=22977 |
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04-25-2011, 01:23 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
383 Rotating Assembley-$977
TH350 racing overhaul kit-$173 Performance Cam?-$200?? Carb (used) and new complete engine gasket Rebuild Kit-$850? Are those reasonable prices to expect? |
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04-25-2011, 02:04 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
how would these work for a performance head? they seem fairly cheap for the pair
http://store.gmperformanceparts.com/store/SelectProd.do?prodId=7605&redir=true&manufacturer=GM&category=Cylinder%20Heads&name=Aluminum%20Fast% 20Burn%20Cylinder%20Head%20Assembly%20&model=<!--12464298--> |
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04-25-2011, 02:14 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
what ever you build, the best money spent will be in the head's. if you already have a good 350 block, 383 with good head's, intake and cam. once you have an engine that makes power you got'a get that power top the ground.
I see a lot people build or buy 400+ hp engine's and stick em what ever they have and wonder why it aint fast. best way to build a fast car (truck) is to start at the rear tire's and work forward.
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04-25-2011, 02:30 PM
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Check swap meets and craigslist. By the time ill be done with my 355 I'll be under $1200 in it. Summit sells cam kits including lifters for $103. Also no carb for what your doing should ever cost $850. You can get a new Holley for under $400. Posted via Mobile Device
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04-25-2011, 02:38 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
the carb and engine rebuild kit together would come to 850 atleast. my buddy has a 355 in a monte ss and she works amazin!
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04-25-2011, 03:30 PM
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Well mine wasn't in a long bed, it was in my short bed. 350 bored thirty over, 9.75:1, comp cams 280 with 1.6 ratio roller rockers, performer rpm intake, edelbrock 600 carb, turbo 400, with 4:11 gears. Ran 14 flat and was very drivable, although not really good on gas... I beat the hell outa that motor, and it lasted a long time.
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04-25-2011, 03:34 PM
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04-25-2011, 03:59 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
Thanks for clearing that one up, i thought it was for the pair :S haha. I downloaded Desktop dyno 2000. Heres a build they have as an example that makes:
422hp at 6000rpm 430 ft/lbs at 4500rpm 350 bored .030 stock heads with 2.02 intake and 1.60 exhaust 10.00 compression ratio 80cc 660 cfm carb dual plane manifold Small tube headers and open exhaust roller cam( intake lift= .465 exhaust lift= .441 ) to me that sounds real good! whether or not the dyno is accurate or not |
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04-25-2011, 04:55 PM
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Whatever you do, don't Scrimp on Heads 350 Flat top pistons Comp XE274H @.50 230/236 .490/.490 or Lunati 60104 @.50 233/241 .504/.525 Profiler or AFR 195cc Heads RPM Air Gap 750 CFM Carb 1 3/4 Headers 2500 RPM Converter 3.73 Gears Sticky Tires Should give you about 400 to 425 HP |
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04-25-2011, 05:48 PM
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Heres whats in my Shopping Cart at summit racing
Edelbrock Performer 750cfm Carb= $284.95 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-1407/ Edelbrock Performer RPM Cam (lift/488-510 duration 308-318) and lifter kit= $169.99 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7102/ Edelbrock Performer RPM Air Gap Intake 1500-6500rpm= $219.95 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-7501/ Edelbrock Carb Spacer= $29.95 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-8711/ Nitrous Express Proton Plus Series Nitrous Kit 35-150hp shot 10 lbs Bottle= $399.95 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NEX-20421-10/ Summit Racing Mechanical Fuel Pump= $44.98 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-250000-1/ Summit Racing/Dynamax Header/Dual Exhaust Kit= $349.80 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-CBJJ202/ Summit Racing 350 Engine Kit .030 Over= $229.80 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-SBCKIT1-300/ heres link to everything in my cart, let me know if this is worth the $1700 |
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04-25-2011, 06:17 PM
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No Heads ? That would be my 1st purchase.... That cam is kinda lazy... the Lunati would be a better choice |
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04-25-2011, 06:26 PM
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04-25-2011, 06:32 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
i have 2 buddies with square bodies one spent 6 grand on a 454 home built in his garage with a th400 and 3.73 10 bolt and has run a 12.9
the other profesionally built a 383 for 8- 10 g with a th350 ans a 3.73 12 bolt and has run a 13.00 so its all what you want to do either big block or small block either will get the job done if you put your mind to it good luck to ya either way
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04-25-2011, 06:47 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
Yea, i seen the summit brand intakes too, are they worth it? that way a little bit of money can be saved
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04-25-2011, 07:35 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
I have no Idea about the intakes, but you might leave some power on the table using their Cams
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04-25-2011, 08:06 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
Big block will do it and still maintain good driving manners. I am going with a 454 or 502 and I'll be upset if I'm not in the mid to low 13s. A converter is a significant factor in 1/4 times too. One of the best bang for the buck mods.
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04-25-2011, 08:28 PM
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Well im gonna ponder ideas for a bit. Ill be leaving the 305 in the truck for now and building my block while im driving it for a bit and after its looking good. It will only see the track 3-4 times a summer. I appreciate all the input guys! definatley more than i expected. Its amazing how much i learnt just from this thread. Desktop dyno 2000, do you guys like it? is it fairly accurate?
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04-25-2011, 08:45 PM
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04-25-2011, 08:54 PM
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Yea, ive spent alot of time on there, but judging from your set up, it could be making that at the crank? seems like a pretty well built motor or not to far off, maybe 550? i dont know for sure, this is really the first interest i toook in engines, forgive me if i sound a bit un educated about this, but after all how many kids my age are trying this?
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04-25-2011, 09:02 PM
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That was the lil 355 I had in my 90 except I had Trick flow heads That Lunati cam is just awesome . Noting was ported or polished out of the box just bolted on just timed and fuel set and my truck ran low 13s all day and was a daily driver and was built for under 2500 .
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04-25-2011, 10:29 PM
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1961 chevy longbed 3:73 posi rear 355 small block chevy camel hump heads 1:94 intake cut 1:60 intakes hooker supercomp headers 2.5 pipes to flowmasters 1800 stall converter to a shift kitted th350 transmission comp cams 270h cam edelbrock victor jr intake comp cams valve springs flat top pistons with 9.75 compression ratio best time 13.3 smoking tires thru 1st gear it was my high school truck i miss playing like that o yea a honda ...............
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04-25-2011, 10:34 PM
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Re: Mid 13's?
take your 305 add a set of world products sr torquer 305 heads, comp 268h cam small stall converter ededbrock performer rpm intake holly 650 double pumper and a 125 shot of squeeze and you got a 12-13 second runner
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