IN Restored Auto Tilt Column - Page 3 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-21-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

the 67-68 is a tilt? Prices of tilt and non-tilt 67-68 to 85249 please amigo

All non tilts are $200+ shipping... modified van tilt.... $350 shipped CONUS truck tilt...$450 shipped CONUS

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Originally Posted by DSALRAM

How much for a red auto tilt 68 circa?.....actually it can be any color since Im painting my interior all red.

$350 all refurbished, blasted sleeve, steering shaft, shift tube, bowl, etc. Everything degrease and all contact points lubed with lithium grease.

All of these tilts will fit in any 1967-1972 truck. The difference in 1967 columns and some 68's is they have one complete longer steering shaft. The 69-72 have the collapsible intermediate shafts which attach to the the steering gear box. I believe it was a safety standard upgrade so the steering column would have some give upon a wreck or front end collision.

Bethewaz · 03-21-2012, 10:43 PM

Heavy Metal, Why is your account "SUSPENDED"??? Never seen that in this forum.

**special-K** · 03-23-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DesertCat

the 67-68 is a tilt? Prices of tilt and non-tilt 67-68 to 85249 please amigo

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Originally Posted by DSALRAM

How much for a red auto tilt 68 circa?.....actually it can be any color since Im painting my interior all red.

No tilt columns till '69,but those will bolt in a 67/68. Be sure to get a later collapsible lower steering shaft as well.

I have installed a van tilt without moving the NSS. What am I missing? It worked for me. Maybe it's good to not know better? I went to put the one I had installed in a truck for 15 years and was laying around a few years. I was surprised,after reading about them on this website,that the NSS was still in the original van position knowing it fit perfectly fine before. I had bought the column completely restored from Cheyenne Super Man as a truck tilt before I knew better. I installed it and used it before I knew better,too. But,I put it right in another truck just fine.

ls1nova71 · 03-23-2012, 11:55 AM

Actually it was no tilts until 1970, but anyway, the only way I could MAYBE see a van NSS working in the van location is if the column was shoved all the way toward the dash panel with the shift collar touching the dash rubber seal. If you put the column where it belongs, with the little tab on the brake pedal mount, in the correct slot in the column, the NSS wont fit.
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HotRod C/10 · 03-23-2012, 12:17 PM

is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere?

ls1nova71 · 03-23-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DSALRAM

is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere?

Here you go!

**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Actually it was no tilts until 1970, but anyway, the only way I could MAYBE see a van NSS working in the van location is if the column was shoved all the way toward the dash panel with the shift collar touching the dash rubber seal. If you put the column where it belongs, with the little tab on the brake pedal mount, in the correct slot in the column, the NSS wont fit.

, not the right way to do it as the column's lower shift bell would have to be right up tight against the dash bezel with the lower tube out of its locating tab. Mel

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Originally Posted by DSALRAM

is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere?

Here are a few more labeled side by comparison shots to check out, both of the pictured van tilts have had the N/S-B/U switch moved/modded to the correct truck postion.

72blazr · 03-23-2012, 08:49 PM

Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread.
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**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 72blazr

Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread.
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None of these pictures show that, I'll go get ya one. Mel

**lolife99** · 03-23-2012, 09:56 PM

How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft?
Cut and weld?

**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 72blazr

Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread.

Here are a couple of pictures showing the intermediate shaft and where it needs to be collapsed 2-3/8" for use w/van tilt. Mel

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 10:35 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. A breath of fresh air... Can you smell it??? Hey I appreciate all the tutorials and such they are really informative but this is not a general discussion forum nor thread. Nonetheless can we get back to my thread please? Thanks guys! Here is a link for anyone needing more info here is a throwback link.... which I already posted originally on the first page of this thread.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bethewaz

Heavy Metal, Why is your account "SUSPENDED"??? Never seen that in this forum.

I posted a picture in a thread against my better judgement...nuff said

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Originally Posted by special-K

No tilt columns till '69,but those will bolt in a 67/68. Be sure to get a later collapsible lower steering shaft as well.

I have installed a van tilt without moving the NSS. What am I missing? It worked for me. Maybe it's good to not know better? I went to put the one I had installed in a truck for 15 years and was laying around a few years. I was surprised,after reading about them on this website,that the NSS was still in the original van position knowing it fit perfectly fine before. I had bought the column completely restored from Cheyenne Super Man as a truck tilt before I knew better. I installed it and used it before I knew better,too. But,I put it right in another truck just fine.

That's what I am saying.. IT CAN BE DONE.

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Actually it was no tilts until 1970, but anyway, the only way I could MAYBE see a van NSS working in the van location is if the column was shoved all the way toward the dash panel with the shift collar touching the dash rubber seal. If you put the column where it belongs, with the little tab on the brake pedal mount, in the correct slot in the column, the NSS wont fit.
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I was thinking tilts in 70 because of the lack of intermediates in the earlier columns.

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft?
Cut and weld?

Yes you can do that or find an RV tilt which many have the same length steering shaft as a truck..

**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft?
Cut and weld?

Although fairly common today with several of the column guys and most if not all of the restored GM "TRUCK TILT" columns listed in the big name parts catalogs, I am not a fan/believer of this cut and re-weld the lower inner shaft method. Dont get me wrong, the one's that are cut, welded and then collared over the joint with each end of the collar welded back to the inner shaft would be plenty strong if done correctly, but most I have seen are just but welded back together w/o a collar or sleeve. I feel if a guy wants the real mccoy "TRUCK TILT" and has paid the money for it, he should get what was paid for and not some cobbled together piece that could put someone's family in harms way if it failed. Mel

**lolife99** · 03-23-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyMetalChevy

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. A breath of fresh air... Can you smell it??? Hey I appreciate all the tutorials and such they are really informative but this is not a general discussion forum nor thread. Nonetheless can we get back to my thread please? Thanks guys! Here is a link for anyone needing more info here is a throwback link.... which I already posted originally on the first page of this thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927

Link doesnt work,...

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Link doesnt work,...

now it does!!! I must have missed something copying it

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927

ls1nova71 · 03-26-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyMetalChevy

That's what I am saying.. IT CAN BE DONE.

I looked at my truck today, and don't see how it would even be possible with the column shoved all the way toward the dash, the brake pedal rod would hit it.

**72ironmike** · 03-26-2012, 09:44 PM

I agree with Mel. The best way to restore a van tilt to a truck tilt is to remove the shafts, shorten/cut and respline them.

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-12-2012, 11:32 PM

ttt

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-26-2012, 12:28 AM

ttt got about 6 of these to do

**southern parts** · 04-26-2012, 10:40 AM

why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. thats how gm did it. next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. it will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-26-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by southern parts

why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. Thats how gm did it. Next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. It will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. Thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

precisely!!!!

ls1nova71 · 04-26-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by southern parts

why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. thats how gm did it. next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. it will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

It's a liability issue. Cutting and re splining takes the risk of bad welds out of the equation. GM spent millions of dollars to make sure they were good welds. It would at least need to be done by a certified welder. Let a weld brake and cause an accident, the lawyers would have a field day.
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**southern parts** · 04-26-2012, 03:05 PM

how much pressure is put on the weld as you turn the wheel, even if you dont have power steering. it would have to be a really crappy weld to break under normal use of turning the wheel.

03-21-2012, 10:43 PM	#52
Bethewaz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Caledonia, NY Posts: 183	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column Heavy Metal, Why is your account "SUSPENDED"??? Never seen that in this forum.

03-23-2012, 11:55 AM	#54
ls1nova71 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Independence Mo Posts: 4,119	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column Actually it was no tilts until 1970, but anyway, the only way I could MAYBE see a van NSS working in the van location is if the column was shoved all the way toward the dash panel with the shift collar touching the dash rubber seal. If you put the column where it belongs, with the little tab on the brake pedal mount, in the correct slot in the column, the NSS wont fit. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ My '72 short bed build. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...6-0-4l80e.html 5.3 swap into my RUSTY '71 C10 http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...71-c-10-a.html

03-23-2012, 12:17 PM	#55
HotRod C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 3,053	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere? __________________ SOLD -77 CHEYENNE SWB, LS SWAPPED -1976 SILVERADO YUBA GOLD/NEUTRAL (2-TONE)

03-23-2012, 08:49 PM	#58
72blazr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 120	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread. Posted via Mobile Device

03-23-2012, 09:56 PM	#60
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,701	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft? Cut and weld? __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

03-23-2012, 10:35 PM	#62
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. A breath of fresh air... Can you smell it??? Hey I appreciate all the tutorials and such they are really informative but this is not a general discussion forum nor thread. Nonetheless can we get back to my thread please? Thanks guys! Here is a link for anyone needing more info here is a throwback link.... which I already posted originally on the first page of this thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927 __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog Last edited by HeavyMetalChevy; 03-23-2012 at 11:03 PM.

03-26-2012, 09:44 PM	#69
72ironmike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Olathe KS (Greater Kansas City MO Area) Posts: 2,056	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column I agree with Mel. The best way to restore a van tilt to a truck tilt is to remove the shafts, shorten/cut and respline them.

04-12-2012, 11:32 PM	#70
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column ttt __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog

04-26-2012, 12:28 AM	#71
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column ttt got about 6 of these to do __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog

04-26-2012, 10:40 AM	#72
southern parts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elberton Ga. Posts: 3,472	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. thats how gm did it. next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. it will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

04-26-2012, 03:05 PM	#75
southern parts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elberton Ga. Posts: 3,472	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column how much pressure is put on the weld as you turn the wheel, even if you dont have power steering. it would have to be a really crappy weld to break under normal use of turning the wheel.



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