1977 Chevy C10 known as SharkBite

[knomadd]

Originally Posted by 77ChevySharkBite

Were not seeing eye to eye on that

For the throttle cable bracket that's what I'm actually going to buy, what I'm going to try and attempt to make is a custom kick down/return spring bracket to have the return spring at the back instead of the front that does that make sense?

Maybe one of us is missing something. Could very well be me since I'm out of genius today.

Both of the brackets at advance and oreilly's have the kick down bracket already. OH OH OH!!! It just clicked... you're talking about the mounting point on the throttle lever attached to the carb, right? What does your connector on the end of your kick down cable look like?

[77ChevySharkBite]

Originally Posted by knomadd

Maybe one of us is missing something. Could very well be me since I'm out of genius today.

Both of the brackets at advance and oreilly's have the kick down bracket already. OH OH OH!!! It just clicked... you're talking about the mounting point on the throttle lever attached to the carb, right? What does your connector on the end of your kick down cable look like?

uh oh!! were onto something now

Because my genius ran out last night we'll use your picture from above as reference the piece I'm talking about is where your kick down cable is, so yes I'm talking about the mounting point, and my my kick down cable looks identical to yours. let me see if I can find a picture of it.

[77ChevySharkBite]

Here's the best picture I can get of how the stock set up was. The 2nd on might be better though there's a little interference from the Air Cleaner looks to be a better picture.

[knomadd]

did you ever figure out how you were going to attach either one to your carb? are they bolted to the quadrajet? It looks like it but I'm not for sure. And I'm guessing the stock bracket isn't wide enough for the edelbrock. Is that true?

[77ChevySharkBite]

Yeah the throttle linkage was bolted down with like a clip, but with the new one it's just bolted down. The kick down was held with a bolt too but the way I can use it on the new one is just a screw just a little bit longer and tighten I'll be fine. Everything is simple and done for the most part my biggest "hump" was trying to figure out the throttle cable "bind" it might be hard to see but the best picture is the 2nd one look towards the firewall you can see the cable kind of do like a little hump when I tried using the stock bracket and new intake it just binded it more because like we talked earlier it's 1" further back than the q-jet/intake manifold was.

the stock bracket works but like we talked with it being further back it kind of "crunches/binds" up the throttle linkage coming from the firewall it'll work. I mean I could always try to trim off some more of the throttle cable bracket try to push it up some maybe make up that 1" difference could work that way but I'm unsure.

[knomadd]

I see. You've got more length than I do. I don't think there's any adjustment in the factory throttle cable to shorten it. If the mount point is back an inch, you'll probably want to go ahead and get a new bracket like we've been talking about. That might solve your problem all together. Edelbrock makes a mount part #8036, search for some pics to see how it looks when it's assembled. It looks like it moves your cables near the valve cover, which might fix the binding problem by putting more of an "s" in it compared to now.

[77ChevySharkBite]

Originally Posted by knomadd

I see. You've got more length than I do. I don't think there's any adjustment in the factory throttle cable to shorten it. If the mount point is back an inch, you'll probably want to go ahead and get a new bracket like we've been talking about. That might solve your problem all together. Edelbrock makes a mount part #8036, search for some pics to see how it looks when it's assembled. It looks like it moves your cables near the valve cover, which might fix the binding problem by putting more of an "s" in it compared to now.

Yeah I'm looking at it now, it looks kind of goofy honestly

Here's the link at jegs.com that show it together but I just don't see how it could benefit the throttle cause in the description it says about cruise and kick down bracket. I think I'm going to attempt to get a throttle bracket like we've been talking and see if that solves it. Like you said there's no way to physically shorter the linkage without buying a new one or coming up with something.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/8036/10002/-1

[77ChevySharkBite]

Check this out Duane, looks like somone used it but on a camaro so not sure if I would be able to use it cause I still have to have clearance for my brake booster pipe and stuff that plugs into the back of the carb.

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159867

[knomadd]

Either bracket you use should be fine for the vacuum line from the back of the carb to the booster. You might need a new vacuum hose to get around the bracket if it currently runs through the space the bracket would occupy, but otherwise it shouldn't be a problem. It's up to you which one you want to use. It looks like mine is like the Mr. Gasket part found at Oreilly's, so there isn't a return spring mounting location on it. you could bend a piece of metal to accept the spring and bolt your fabbed spring bracket in one of the threaded holes in the back drivers side of the intake manifold. You'll just need to figure out how to connect the spring to the carb (eyelet we talked about earlier).

[77ChevySharkBite]

Thanks for all the help today Duane, I can't say thank you enough! I think I'm going to try your bracket and go from there and see what I can do about getting the spring set up correctly.

I'll keep everyone posted.

[knomadd]

Do you realize we went through 2 pages today? I hope after all of that you find something that works. Good luck!

[77ChevySharkBite]

Yeah if I don't find nothing that works that's 2 pages of nothing but talking

I imagine that when I go get that throttle bracket like yours it's going to solve everything and I'll just have to figure out how to run the spring, so until then I will probably go buy the part this weekend and see about getting it working and getting that baby cranked over!

[67 c10 guy]

According to your last post you said "if I don't find nothing that works" means you might find something that will work. You used a double negative bro. Lol

I still think the solution to your problem is a shorter throttle cable
as for the kickdown I don't know.

[knomadd]

Hey Korwin, did you ever get the throttle cable figured out? If not, check out this thread I just found on Ginger, LoLife99's build from a while back. On page 4, last pic in post #87 has a picture of the lokar throttle cable and throttle cable bracket with the return spring connection I was trying to help you figure out.
Ginger

[77ChevySharkBite]

Originally Posted by knomadd

Hey Korwin, did you ever get the throttle cable figured out? If not, check out this thread I just found on Ginger, LoLife99's build from a while back. On page 4, last pic in post #87 has a picture of the lokar throttle cable and throttle cable bracket with the return spring connection I was trying to help you figure out.
Ginger

Ahh I see thanks knomadd!! that's actually a really slick looking set up I like it a lot.

[77ChevySharkBite]

Well it looks like new throttle cable it'll have to be. Here's the pictures from today

[77ChevySharkBite]

But on the bright side I went to the junkyard today and sometime maybe this week for about $250 I'll have a new core support, front bumper, rear bumper brackets, and bed!

[Claytona08]

Hey man, glad to see you making some progress!

[77ChevySharkBite]

Originally Posted by Claytona08

Hey man, glad to see you making some progress!

Thanks man, yeah the carb intake has been rough but trying to stay positive about it getting a new throttle linkage tomorrow then I should be up and running so fingers crossed tomorrow it cranks.

[77ChevySharkBite]

I think I have found the solution a shorter cable!

[jpnh]

Originally Posted by 77ChevySharkBite

But on the bright side I went to the junkyard today and sometime maybe this week for about $250 I'll have a new core support, front bumper, rear bumper brackets, and bed!

Good score-jeff

[77ChevySharkBite]

Originally Posted by jpnh

Good score-jeff

Yeah I´m happy about it man just ready to get it going.

[chevybuilder18]

Originally Posted by 77ChevySharkBite

But on the bright side I went to the junkyard today and sometime maybe this week for about $250 I'll have a new core support, front bumper, rear bumper brackets, and bed!

looks like your going to be doing some more sanding and painting

Originally Posted by 77ChevySharkBite

Thanks man, yeah the carb intake has been rough but trying to stay positive about it getting a new throttle linkage tomorrow then I should be up and running so fingers crossed tomorrow it cranks.

well looks like this problem hasnt gone away, fingers crossed here too.

Originally Posted by 77ChevySharkBite

Yeah I´m happy about it man just ready to get it going.

sorry i havent been on lately to see your progress, damn phone company shut the internet off.. but im gonna to be on more now than ever

[77ChevySharkBite]

Originally Posted by chevybuilder18

looks like your going to be doing some more sanding and painting

well looks like this problem hasnt gone away, fingers crossed here too.


sorry i havent been on lately to see your progress, damn phone company shut the internet off.. but im gonna to be on more now than ever

Yeah my favorite thing in the world sanding and painting! Ahhhhh......the joys of restoring a truck on a semi budget

Yeah it seems to have fixed the problem, I just have to plug up something close to the pedal some black piece I'm not sure where it plugs to do just because my friend had taken it off initially so not sure exactly where it's located.

It's all good man, yeah things happen trust me glad your back!

[77ChevySharkBite]

Now another order of business as long as money looks right.....I have a deadline to meet now.

I'm being very hopeful about this so bare with me guys, this weekend is the yearly Air Show here in Houston, last year the truck was supposed to be there well it didn't make it this year we're really going to try and make it. Also there's a truck show down in the Clear Lake area that night as well.

So if you haven't figured out my deadline it's to have the truck in running and driving condition by Saturday morning/noonish to make it to the Air Show and Truck Show that night. Now I have one great thing on my side as long as is sticks I will have this Friday completely off. Which means I can have a full day dedicated to the truck which also means taking a visit to the junkyard and spend the day pulling parts to get it ready. If everything goes smoothly I will have the truck all buttoned up and running without a grille by Saturday. Oh also have to do a semi paint job on it too, the bed I'm looking at getting is black so going to do just a simple matte black on the cab of the truck

So fellas lets have a little faith in me wish me well!