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AusTruck · 03-29-2011, 12:13 PM

I'm interested too. Been thinkin of changing over to a later o-ring style steering box that I could run with the hoses from the hydroboost. So maybe upgrading to a power R&P that bolts in might be even better. I'm gonna make a wild guess that the R&P will take the o-ring type hoses.

**robnolimit** · 03-30-2011, 08:23 PM

1. Yes, it's an O-ring style rack.
2. We drove on this set up last night, at our local test track, and everything is working great. Perfect steering, good feedback, no bumpsteer, and no noise. Soon we will have them ready for sale. hopefully in early may.

Custom 68 · 03-30-2011, 11:04 PM

hey what a coincidence my birthday is in May. sounds like an awesome present...hint hint.
that is great. I have driven thes old trucks for a long time is the no bumpsteer the main reason for the swap? I guess is there a "list" of here is why I would want a RP steering? it sure seems like a good idea since the trucks now have all the different linkages.
again thanks for the support.

Project1970 · 04-04-2011, 01:35 AM

Why? Far more precise input and feedback; aside from my GMC, every vehicle I've owned has had a rack and pinion, and every vehicle I've owned, including the crapbox '98 Ranger I bought with 164k on the clock and a worn out front suspension, and my old '88 Volvo with 180k on it, is/was more pleasant to drive in the curves and easier to place on the road than my GMC, despite all of the lowering goodies.

This is to say - I really, really want one

It sounds weird to say, but if I could make my truck actually turn and stop like my Volvo did, except with roughly 3x the horsepower, I think I'll be set.

**robnolimit** · 04-04-2011, 03:48 PM

Weekend update. We had a great time in Del-Mar this weekend at the Good-Guys show. We ran our JT truck in the autocross, and drove it all over town, as well as to and from Del-Mar. We are really happy with the steering, and the rack kit. Looks like a home run. We won the truck class in the Silver Bullit 55, with a 34.144, the JT ran a 36.647, and we really need a trans controller to keep it in low, Rob Mcewen's Dueces Wild 67 F-100 ran a 35.153 (class 2nd), and Rob Phillips 69 C-10 ran a quick 34.557 for 5th in the Vendor class. If the JT's times look slow, it still ran faster than half of the entries. Not bad for it's first outing.

**rob32472** · 04-04-2011, 04:16 PM

Cool! Now get it to market! Lol! Thanks for the update!

Tmend · 04-04-2011, 05:09 PM

I love good news on a Monday . Great to hear the system ran good. Now can I buy the first kit since I started the thread. please!!!!!!

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**robnolimit** · 04-06-2011, 04:35 PM

drove it to work today, again, and it is a pleasure to drive. We heard a squeek on the compression in a right turn, but it was the lower bushings, so better news. We are using the late model pump, and stock hoses. 2002 c-1500. We are looking at source books to see if we can find a stock hose for the early style pump. I'll keep you posted

**rob32472** · 04-06-2011, 05:37 PM

Cool running an LS motor myself so no issues on the line for me....

Custom 68 · 04-06-2011, 08:37 PM

Yep me too
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Conundrum · 04-10-2011, 07:17 AM

Looks like a very good setup, I want one as well.

68GMCCustom · 04-10-2011, 08:58 PM

I got a bushing from Speedway that adapts a flare style hose to an o-ring style pump. Works great.

FeNiX · 04-11-2011, 08:37 PM

I need a # so I can order one of this steering rack kits

**rob32472** · 04-11-2011, 08:53 PM

They wont be avail till may or june according to the thread

aggie91 · 04-13-2011, 02:51 PM

I think that I will have to wait till this comes out. I am redoing an 82 model for my son's first truck. We were going to rebuild the front suspension and steering this summer, but might want to wait on this kit.

Rob - will you have the JT and Silver Bullet at the GoodGuys at TMS in October? I did not get to go to the March meet...

Greywolf200 · 04-14-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by robnolimit

Mech77, It is a tunable set up. The new tie rod end sits under the steering arm using a high-misalignment rod end. With stock arms, (and 2 or 3 deg of caster) use no spacers, then add 1/8" spacer for each 3* of increased caster.

Rob, How does the service life of the rod ends compare to OEM tie rod ends? Are the permanently lubricated or lubricatable?

Thanks,

Tmend · 04-28-2011, 01:03 AM

May is right around the corner Rob. I cant wait anymore....I got all my front end done except steering.. Let's have it.....

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68GMCCustom · 04-28-2011, 11:04 AM

yes my trucks new front end just screams for a quicker steering setup. the stock box is tooo sloooww and requires to much input for anything curvier then a straight line

**robnolimit** · 04-28-2011, 04:09 PM

We're working on it as fast as we can. The tie rod end (rod-end) life span should be about 30k miles, shorter than stockers, but not to bad. This is a common rod end so easy to replace.

Project1970 · 05-03-2011, 01:37 PM

How is the rack going to connect to the steering shaft? Any chance that this will also give us a good chance to ditch the rag joint and go to a U-joint?

**robnolimit** · 05-04-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Project1970

How is the rack going to connect to the steering shaft? Any chance that this will also give us a good chance to ditch the rag joint and go to a U-joint?

Oh YES, the kit will include the lower U-Joint and 3/4" D-D shaft. However, since we have no way of knowing what column everyone will be using, the upper U-joint is not part of the kit. We stock most of the common sizing, but an upper U-joint will be required.

Tmend · 05-04-2011, 06:19 PM

rob just to make sure this setup will work with an inline 6 292 and the stock power steering system..also will the stock power steering hoses work or are new ones in the kit. thanks

chapster · 05-04-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chapster

Hey Rob,

Any pics of the driver side motor mount/rack clearance?

Rob, Can you please advise in detail the modifications required for this kit if it remains the same as your test beta. You mentioned small notch is required, I assume this would be frame notch?

Also for people running LS engines will there still be a requirement for a modified drivers side engine mount if we are using CPP tubular mounts?

Thanks

**rob32472** · 05-04-2011, 09:34 PM

interested in this as well!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chapster

Rob, Can you please advise in detail the modifications required for this kit if it remains the same as your test beta. You mentioned small notch is required, I assume this would be frame notch?

Also for people running LS engines will there still be a requirement for a modified drivers side engine mount if we are using CPP tubular mounts?

Thanks

Scot_Douglas · 05-10-2011, 09:31 PM

Too late (and too much invested) to take advantage of Rob's new rack setup - but, damn, this is HUGE. An affordable R&P for our trucks is epic.

Props to No Limit. Woot!

03-29-2011, 12:13 PM	#76
AusTruck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 90	Re: Bolt in steering rack I'm interested too. Been thinkin of changing over to a later o-ring style steering box that I could run with the hoses from the hydroboost. So maybe upgrading to a power R&P that bolts in might be even better. I'm gonna make a wild guess that the R&P will take the o-ring type hoses.

03-30-2011, 08:23 PM	#77
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Bolt in steering rack 1. Yes, it's an O-ring style rack. 2. We drove on this set up last night, at our local test track, and everything is working great. Perfect steering, good feedback, no bumpsteer, and no noise. Soon we will have them ready for sale. hopefully in early may. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

03-30-2011, 11:04 PM	#78
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,937	Re: Bolt in steering rack hey what a coincidence my birthday is in May. sounds like an awesome present...hint hint. that is great. I have driven thes old trucks for a long time is the no bumpsteer the main reason for the swap? I guess is there a "list" of here is why I would want a RP steering? it sure seems like a good idea since the trucks now have all the different linkages. again thanks for the support. __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

04-04-2011, 01:35 AM	#79
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Re: Bolt in steering rack Why? Far more precise input and feedback; aside from my GMC, every vehicle I've owned has had a rack and pinion, and every vehicle I've owned, including the crapbox '98 Ranger I bought with 164k on the clock and a worn out front suspension, and my old '88 Volvo with 180k on it, is/was more pleasant to drive in the curves and easier to place on the road than my GMC, despite all of the lowering goodies. This is to say - I really, really want one It sounds weird to say, but if I could make my truck actually turn and stop like my Volvo did, except with roughly 3x the horsepower, I think I'll be set. __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete! Last edited by Project1970; 04-04-2011 at 02:16 PM.

04-04-2011, 03:48 PM	#80
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Bolt in steering rack Weekend update. We had a great time in Del-Mar this weekend at the Good-Guys show. We ran our JT truck in the autocross, and drove it all over town, as well as to and from Del-Mar. We are really happy with the steering, and the rack kit. Looks like a home run. We won the truck class in the Silver Bullit 55, with a 34.144, the JT ran a 36.647, and we really need a trans controller to keep it in low, Rob Mcewen's Dueces Wild 67 F-100 ran a 35.153 (class 2nd), and Rob Phillips 69 C-10 ran a quick 34.557 for 5th in the Vendor class. If the JT's times look slow, it still ran faster than half of the entries. Not bad for it's first outing. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

04-04-2011, 04:16 PM	#81
rob32472 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: dallas ga Posts: 1,505	Re: Bolt in steering rack Cool! Now get it to market! Lol! Thanks for the update!

04-04-2011, 05:09 PM	#82
Tmend Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reseda CA Posts: 1,295	Re: Bolt in steering rack I love good news on a Monday . Great to hear the system ran good. Now can I buy the first kit since I started the thread. please!!!!!! Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by Tmend; 04-04-2011 at 05:10 PM. Reason: Spelling

04-06-2011, 04:35 PM	#83
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Bolt in steering rack drove it to work today, again, and it is a pleasure to drive. We heard a squeek on the compression in a right turn, but it was the lower bushings, so better news. We are using the late model pump, and stock hoses. 2002 c-1500. We are looking at source books to see if we can find a stock hose for the early style pump. I'll keep you posted __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

04-06-2011, 05:37 PM	#84
rob32472 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: dallas ga Posts: 1,505	Re: Bolt in steering rack Cool running an LS motor myself so no issues on the line for me....

04-06-2011, 08:37 PM	#85
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,937	Re: Bolt in steering rack Yep me too Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

04-10-2011, 07:17 AM	#86
Conundrum Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Parsons, KS Posts: 652	Re: Bolt in steering rack Looks like a very good setup, I want one as well. __________________ 74 GMC SWB Project "Sin-thia" Static Dropped 8"f/10"r http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=460030 97 GMC reg cab short bed, 4.3V6 / 5spd, daily driver 220,000 miles, all stock for now

04-10-2011, 08:58 PM	#87
68GMCCustom Truck and auto performance nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McKinney,Texas Posts: 3,848	Re: Bolt in steering rack I got a bushing from Speedway that adapts a flare style hose to an o-ring style pump. Works great. __________________ Kurt - '68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy '72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close '06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD '18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver '95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto... my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken

04-11-2011, 08:37 PM	#88
FeNiX Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 32	Re: Bolt in steering rack I need a # so I can order one of this steering rack kits

04-11-2011, 08:53 PM	#89
rob32472 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: dallas ga Posts: 1,505	Re: Bolt in steering rack They wont be avail till may or june according to the thread

04-13-2011, 02:51 PM	#90
aggie91 I'm just glad to be here! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 4,788	Re: Bolt in steering rack I think that I will have to wait till this comes out. I am redoing an 82 model for my son's first truck. We were going to rebuild the front suspension and steering this summer, but might want to wait on this kit. Rob - will you have the JT and Silver Bullet at the GoodGuys at TMS in October? I did not get to go to the March meet... __________________ Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square



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04-28-2011, 01:03 AM	#92
Tmend Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reseda CA Posts: 1,295	Re: Bolt in steering rack May is right around the corner Rob. I cant wait anymore....I got all my front end done except steering.. Let's have it..... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Some progress is better then no progress

04-28-2011, 11:04 AM	#93
68GMCCustom Truck and auto performance nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McKinney,Texas Posts: 3,848	Re: Bolt in steering rack yes my trucks new front end just screams for a quicker steering setup. the stock box is tooo sloooww and requires to much input for anything curvier then a straight line __________________ Kurt - '68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy '72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close '06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD '18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver '95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto... my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken

04-28-2011, 04:09 PM	#94
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Bolt in steering rack We're working on it as fast as we can. The tie rod end (rod-end) life span should be about 30k miles, shorter than stockers, but not to bad. This is a common rod end so easy to replace. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

05-03-2011, 01:37 PM	#95
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Re: Bolt in steering rack How is the rack going to connect to the steering shaft? Any chance that this will also give us a good chance to ditch the rag joint and go to a U-joint? __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

05-04-2011, 06:19 PM	#97
Tmend Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reseda CA Posts: 1,295	Re: Bolt in steering rack rob just to make sure this setup will work with an inline 6 292 and the stock power steering system..also will the stock power steering hoses work or are new ones in the kit. thanks __________________ Some progress is better then no progress

05-10-2011, 09:31 PM	#100
Scot_Douglas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Howell, MI Posts: 403	Re: Bolt in steering rack Too late (and too much invested) to take advantage of Rob's new rack setup - but, damn, this is HUGE. An affordable R&P for our trucks is epic. Props to No Limit. Woot! __________________ 1964 C10 - sold to chris1044 1966 C10 Build 'Fread

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