WOW........2023 original miles

[Harleys 4 You]

Originally Posted by barraza

I'm not trying to get in an argument, just stating a fact. There was absolutely no documentation to support the miles claimed. Bill of sales, POP's and build sheets don't document anything about miles. Produce a stack of state inspection documents with miles recorded for the last 40 years and I would feel different.

As for being joe schmo with a truck I "once owned", you're wrong. I still own it, it has a lot more miles, it gets used regularly, and it still has rockers, frame and firewall that look as good as this truck.

This truck may be everything the seller claims, he may be the nicest, most honest guy in the world, but I have seen too many ebay horror stories to EVER buy anything sight unseen, and I think anyone who buys that way is crazy. If I could see it in person and it really looks 2000 mile original in person, I would buy it in a heartbeat. You can't get to where this truck is for the money, IF it is real.

It is by appearances a very nice truck, all I was saying is buy the condition, not a mileage figure that has no way to be substantiated.

If you really want to be sure, here's some places to look. Pull the wheels - the brakes should look new, drums never turned, not even much dust on a 2000 mile vehicle, no wear at all where the shoes rub the backing plate, and wheel bearings and seals should look like new. Pull the transmission pan - nothing inside but clean fluid, no shavings or dirt, original filter. Should have original alternator, carb, points, plugs, condenser, cap and wires, or repair receipts (with miles recorded) for. Pull a rear axle - the bearing rides on it, it should look like new, that's something no one would ever replace when trying to cover up miles.

A 2000 mile vehicle of any kind is a rare bird, and potentially worth a lot of money. There are demos on lots with over 2000 miles that you can't even tell have been driven. Absolutely the only wear on a 2000 mile vehicle should be from time. Only buy mileage if you are planning on putting it in a museum. Otherwise buy the best condition you can, and build it like you want, stock or modified.

To the owner, good luck in the sale, I'm not trying to say you are not being honest. I just don't take anyones word for something that can't be verified.

We do have some state inspection papers. Some of them do state the miles. Thank you for reminding me about them. I will get pictures of them added to my posting tomorrow. I am so certain of the miles on this truck that, if you buy the truck and are able to proof that the miles are not actual, I will give all your money back plus your expenses.

[72cheyenneman]

Hey Harley...if it's not too much trouble, take a closeup picture of the front headlights.

[Harleys 4 You]

Originally Posted by 72cheyenneman

Hey Harley...if it's not too much trouble, take a closeup picture of the front headlights.

OK, tomorrow.

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by 72cheyenneman

Hey Harley...if it's not too much trouble, take a closeup picture of the front headlights.

From the picture of the front straight on, you can see the circle where they both say Power Beam.

[72cheyenneman]

Harley...could you take a picture under the hood on the bottom side. I'd like to see how much blue is under the hood. Thanks so very much. If I lived closer, I'd stop and take a good look at this truck and photograph all the details. Fascinating...Casey

[mcbassin]

Bazarra brought up some very interesting things to look for if you ever find one of these rare low mileage trucks or any vehicle for that matter. I have bought many new trucks over the years and put 2K miles on them in the first month or two and they still looked brand new. BUT, I have never stored one for 41 years to see how the elements change the frame under carriage etc.
I have owned alot of Chevys and GM cars and the company is notorious for not coating things to prevent surface rust from forming. It actually kinda pisses me off when I crawl under a new one to find surface rust on differentials or other areas left unprotected by GM.
Regardless of actual mileage this truck is SUPER nice. They ain't making any more of them. I would love to own it.

[72cheyenneman]

Originally Posted by mcbassin

Bazarra brought up some very interesting things to look for if you ever find one of these rare low mileage trucks or any vehicle for that matter. I have bought many new trucks over the years and put 2K miles on them in the first month or two and they still looked brand new. BUT, I have never stored one for 41 years to see how the elements change the frame under carriage etc.
I have owned alot of Chevys and GM cars and the company is notorious for not coating things to prevent surface rust from forming. It actually kinda pisses me off when I crawl under a new one to find surface rust on differentials or other areas left unprotected by GM.
Regardless of actual mileage this truck is SUPER nice. They ain't making any more of them. I would love to own it.

x2

[barraza]

Originally Posted by Harleys 4 You

We do have some state inspection papers. Some of them do state the miles. Thank you for reminding me about them. I will get pictures of them added to my posting tomorrow. I am so certain of the miles on this truck that, if you buy the truck and are able to proof that the miles are not actual, I will give all your money back plus your expenses.

I would really like to see those papers, and the rest of the appraisal that wasn't in the ebay listing. I just looked, its 801 miles from me to Andover, damn.

[70shortfleet]

Harley, very nice truck, wish I had the extra cash and I would be in a bidding war! Is it me or is the back bumper a little crooked, about those head lights, did they put T3 head lights in all of these trucks when they were new?

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by 70shortfleet

Harley, very nice truck, wish I had the extra cash and I would be in a bidding war! Is it me or is the back bumper a little crooked, about those head lights, did they put T3 head lights in all of these trucks when they were new?

T3's stopped in 1970, in '71 they switched to Power Beam.

[Harleys 4 You]

Here is the link with the additional pictures that were requested. Also included is the page that was missing from the appraisal (which was the cover sheet) and the inspection papers from 2005 and from 2010 documenting the mileage.
http://photobucket.com/more71chevydocuments

[VA72C10]

Would be interesting to see if you have any earlier documented inspection forms or anything documenting the mileage. I found a lot of that info in the 71 blazer I restored inside the owner's manual including a hand written page noting all the maintenance done and at what mileage which was really cool to have...

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by barraza

The appraisal says avg undercarriage, how does that happen in 2000 miles? With those miles, it should look NEW.

Very wise to be cautious of all claims and try not to buy sight unseen. I will say GM was not in the business to manufacture show vehicles, they built high volume production vehicles and even new, these trucks are not perfect show pieces. Often people see perfectly restored vehicles with nice thick paint on every inch of the vehicle, but this is not the way they came out of the factory. Undercarriage rarely receive a full coat of paint. Within time, the thin paint disengarates and weathers which begins the surface rust phase. Factory paint jobs are not uniform, they are thick in some places and thin in others. In addition, I believe front ends and cargo beds were painted at different times than the cab and are attached together later down the assembly line. Not many apraisers will know what a super super low mileage truck should suppposed to look like since they probably spend a large majority of their time with restorations.

[1967wannabe]

Originally Posted by barraza

......Pull the transmission pan - nothing inside but clean fluid, no shavings or dirt, original filter........Pull a rear axle - the bearing rides on it, it should look like new, that's something no one would ever replace when trying to cover up miles.

I can't imagine Harleys 4 You would ever allow that, I know I wouldn't. There a hundreds of other indicators to verify mileage.

[DANTIP]

I have owned other legitimate original-paint low mileage trucks and I don't doubt this one at all. The intact parts tags, clamps, etc. all look perfectly convincing. Remember most of this truck's life it wasn't anything special. It was obviously well cared for but it's not perfect. Joesjunk knows survivor trucks as well as anyone on this board and he plans to look at it Saturday. I'll bet Joe owns it next week.

[HOTFUN]

I don't doubt this beautiful pickup in the least. I've owned several very low mile examples and 40+ years of even garaged storage can cause a certain amount of surface rust to undercarriage and engine areas. Many factory metal pieces were never even as much coated with paint or preservative and instantly surfaced rusted before they arrived at the dealer. The exhausts were carbon steel not any galvanized or stainless steel parts back then. In most cases, humidity and warmer air over cool concrete floors will make even lightly painted items surface rust over years of storage.

I got a couple of other projects now so I am not on this one but it is tempting. If Joesjunk is bidding on it, rest assured it is the real deal. He knows everything there is to know about factory original vehicles. Good luck Joe.

[72BlckButy]

Go Joe Go.... I want to see this thing in your driveway.

[special-K]

I've owned several fine example of original survivor trucks and a few very low mile,barely used ones and see no reason to doubt this one. I also understand why someone would require more than just the claims of the seller...on buying "anything". If value is based on rare low mileage and original condition you'd have to be a fool,or have more money than sense,to buy without inspecting...IMO. I think if anyone was going to counterfeit a truck they wouldn't choose an example such as this. If they did,they'd probably go farther and make it more than what it is with a new SPID...or none! This truck simply does not raise any flags. Also,only the most savvy and appreciative of these trucks would even be attracted to this truck...or someone who has pockets full of money and no conscience who wants an easy truck to build a custom off of,like Boyd Coddington would have done.

[teeitup]

the dreaded "0" feedback bidder is on top right now, 2 hours 20 min to go.

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by teeitup

the dreaded "0" feedback bidder is on top right now, 2 hours 20 min to go.

He placed that bid on Tuesday, and has been on top since. Makes me wonder what he bid it to??? I'm getting nervous just watching this!

[Classic Bowties]

Hang on... Here we go!

[ls1nova71]

Joe got it!!!!!!!

[HeavyMetalChevy]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

As joe dirt would say... Daangg! I don't recall seeing a powerglide this late either. Looks like a nice original.

I am going to have to go joe dirt with it as well.....DAAANG!!!

[Joesjunk]

Well I got it!!! I looked at it this morning and all I can say is WOW!! I spent right at what I wanted to on it. ill probably pick it up next weekend. Now it looks like i might need to sell a few things to pay for it.....

[72 Super]

Congrats Joe! I am glad it went to a member.

Ray