Project 68 k10 LWB..aka "The Hulk"

[First c10]

This will have to wait till tomorrow.

[7dee2]

Wow, you guys are flying on this! Good job!

[First c10]

Originally Posted by 7dee2

Wow, you guys are flying on this! Good job!

Thanks!!!
I am trying to get as much done as possible because I coach High School football. Once practice starts I wont have much time to work on it.

I did call Tuff Country about my shocks, they gave me the lengths compressed and extended. What a big gap between 0" and the 3" rear shock lengths.

Shock --------------Lift-------------Compressed-----------Extended
TC 61301 (rear)....4-6"...................17".......................29.5"
TC 61261...."........3"......................16"......................26.5"
TC 69105...."........0"......................13.5"...................22.5"
TC 61231 (front)....4-6"...................13.5"..................2.5"

My truck is currently about 19.5" eye to eye. I have not measured it hanging from the frame. I will try to do it, but I want to try and get the motor/trans in tonight.

Can someone measure there frame? ground to top of front frame rail and ground to top of rear frame rail without the engine and body on it? I am just wondering the height difference.

[0311Chevy8152]

Wanted to say hello. I'm about to start tearing down my 72 4x4 LWB. This is going to be my first time and I appreciate what your posting. I haven't looked to see where in California you are but I am just above Sacramento. I look forward to watching your progress. Nathan

[First c10]

Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152

Wanted to say hello. I'm about to start tearing down my 72 4x4 LWB. This is going to be my first time and I appreciate what your posting. I haven't looked to see where in California you are but I am just above Sacramento. I look forward to watching your progress. Nathan

Hey Nathan welcome to the site. This site is the best. Thanks forget he kind words. You will find so many before me that have done them to study. If you can? start a build thread and post pictures everyone loves pictures.

I am south or you on Interstate 5 about 100 miles south of Sacramento.

The mechanical and welding or fabricating part is easy for me the body work and paint not so much.

[DWilbur]

Originally Posted by First c10

Thanks!!!
I am trying to get as much done as possible because I coach High School football. Once practice starts I wont have much time to work on it.

I did call Tuff Country about my shocks, they gave me the lengths compressed and extended. What a big gap between 0" and the 3" rear shock lengths.

Shock --------------Lift-------------Compressed-----------Extended
TC 61301 (rear)....4-6"...................17".......................29.5"
TC 61261...."........3"......................16"......................26.5"
TC 69105...."........0"......................13.5"...................22.5"
TC 61231 (front)....4-6"...................13.5"..................2.5"

My truck is currently about 19.5" eye to eye. I have not measured it hanging from the frame. I will try to do it, but I want to try and get the motor/trans in tonight.

Can someone measure there frame? ground to top of front frame rail and ground to top of rear frame rail without the engine and body on it? I am just wondering the height difference.

Your 1/2 ton wont be the same as my 3/4 ton with 1 ton running gear. I only noticed about 1/2" lower with the engine, trans and T-case installed. I have 6" lift on my truck with some junk wheels on it to keep it lower to the ground while I work on it. I have 36" tires to put on once the cab is back on. I'm at work now I can measure Wednesday for you.

[First c10]

Originally Posted by DWilbur

Your 1/2 ton wont be the same as my 3/4 ton with 1 ton running gear. I only noticed about 1/2" lower with the engine, trans and T-case installed. I have 6" lift on my truck with some junk wheels on it to keep it lower to the ground while I work on it. I have 36" tires to put on once the cab is back on. I'm at work now I can measure Wednesday for you.

ok thanks
I was curious of the front to back height measurement... I am looking for the differential front to back. If the front is higher or lower than the rear etc. The 1/2" of drop after the motor was installed is great. I am hoping to try and get my motor in tonight.

Also I think I am going to wait on the shocks till the truck is almost completed before I exchange them. I am pretty sure that I will exchange them for 61261. if the rear settles 1' I will be in the middle of the stroke.

David have you measured the wheel base after installing the ORD flip kit? after looking at my bump stop brackets I would say that my rear axle is forward too much. I am going to measure tonight!

[First c10]

Well started to get the the engine in. Wow. Everyone makes it look easy. I can't seem to be positive it is aligned correctly.... Does the engine and trans sit centered of the frame rails?or does it site to the drive side a little to account for the transfer case? I got it to about 1/4" in 24". What is the tilt from the engine to the trans? I just want to make sure before I drill the pedestal's. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.
Oh and I have about 13" from center of core support mounts to the front edge of the crank pulley. How does that sound?

[First c10]

Another chassis and engine picture.

[First c10]

And another.

[First c10]

Here is a picture of the driver engine mount.

[DWilbur]

how does your placement match to the dimension I gave you. I fit mine with the cab on.

['68 Newtricks]

I'll bet when your axle moves up, it will line up. You haven't messed with the perch pin placement. Measure in a straight line

[First c10]

Originally Posted by '68 Newtricks

I'll bet when your axle moves up, it will line up. You haven't messed with the perch pin placement. Measure in a straight line

I will try it. The reason I even looked at it was becuase my shocks were to long and was wondering if it was the rear end closer to the shock mount.

[First c10]

Originally Posted by DWilbur

how does your placement match to the dimension I gave you. I fit mine with the cab on.

Glad you asked. You gave me a measurement of 18-1/8" from front of engine. You said " engine block under water pump " under the water pump are a few different areas so I am not quite sure if I am right. I have to be close but before I drill the mounts I need to know for sure. Hey I wonder. If I could measure my sons c10 to the radiator support should be the same right???

[DWilbur]

Originally Posted by First c10

Glad you asked. You gave me a measurement of 18-1/8" from front of engine. You said " engine block under water pump " under the water pump are a few different areas so I am not quite sure if I am right. I have to be close but before I drill the mounts I need to know for sure. Hey I wonder. If I could measure my sons c10 to the radiator support should be the same right???

Should be the same. On my engine below the water pump is a flat spot front of block that I measured from.
I checked my frame height off the floor and 33-5/8" from top of frame to ground front and back. The tires are 29-1/2" tall. 6" lift front springs. stock springs with shackle flip kit.

[7dee2]

Originally Posted by DWilbur

I fit mine with the cab on.

Before you make it permanent I'd throw a cab on it just to be sure it's far enough forward to clear, IMO this is the biggest deal. Also a factory transfer case crossmember should set the rear height pretty close but if not you can tell with the cab on also. You kept the motor high enough and centered again using a factory crossmember (scalping the top of the stands kept the height). Your motor mount arrangement looks comparable in height to a factory clam shell style (which could be measured). FYI, my 84 K35 engine crossmember was centered in the frame. Any offset side to side would be built into the stands I believe.

[First c10]

Originally Posted by 7dee2

Before you make it permanent I'd throw a cab on it just to be sure it's far enough forward to clear, IMO this is the biggest deal. Also a factory transfer case crossmember should set the rear height pretty close but if not you can tell with the cab on also. You kept the motor high enough and centered again using a factory crossmember (scalping the top of the stands kept the height). Your motor mount arrangement looks comparable in height to a factory clam shell style (which could be measured). FYI, my 84 K35 engine crossmember was centered in the frame. Any offset side to side would be built into the stands I believe.

Yeah I was hoping to not have to put the cab on but probably the best. I looked at dwilbers and wasted incomes builds both have there engines in different places. Actually wasted incomes is farther forward and DWilbers is back a little ( I think) I went off the pictures referencing the holes in the frame which I believe are in the same place on all 4x4 frames. With the current stands and TC crossmembers my engine/trans is at 4* down.
Thanks for the help guys

[First c10]

Hey guys do you mind doing me a favor and looking at your frames and comparing to my picture.... I feel I maybe too close to the cab?

[First c10]

David I measured from here.

[First c10]

To here.
The frame height from ground to top of Frame is 33" front and 35-1/2" rear. But doesn't look like it has a rake
On 33" tires.

[DWilbur]

I measured up a little higher and to the right the flat area of the block.

[First c10]

Originally Posted by DWilbur

I measured up a little higher and to the right the flat area of the block.

The front of the timing cover? Above the crank pulley?

[DWilbur]

the top picture showing the end of your tape measure move to the right about 3/4" that part of the block is where I measured from.

[DWilbur]

info on the bump stops from ORD
http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/bumpstops.htm