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02-14-2013, 12:21 PM | #1 |
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Re: 66 SPID sticker language - share and learn!
[QUOTE=Keith Seymore;5888006]I've had an opportunity to go back and skim through the previous pages and it appears to me you guys are on the right track. Keep up the good work!
Great insite Keith ! Thanks for sharing. Question, any chance you might know someone with assembly line photos from 65 66 ? They are great for details. I know its a tough one but hey, gotta ask. Jon
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I have seen a LIFE pictorial from Tarrytown plant in 1959, and we also have Pontiac Motor Division photos (Pontiac Michigan) from 65-67. There also is a "Pontiac Pours it On" video series on youtube in six or seven installments. I can find those and link 'em up if you think they'd be helpful. K
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02-14-2013, 07:56 PM | #3 |
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here are some assembly photos i post these before so you may have them |
02-11-2013, 10:47 PM | #4 |
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I haven't checked in here in awhile (been busy working on the truck!) But this is fascinating info...It's a niche area of knowledge for sure, but it seems that these codes for these years are info that is on the verge of being lost if some of us don't discover their specifics. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but these little details and reasons for things like extra letters and whatnot just seem so interesting.
I'm not sure i'd know how to decode those invoices, but i'd try if no one else wanted to. Knowing that this info would be of little use in the real world really wouldn't deter me from wanted to thoroughly understand them, if for no other reason than saving the information, and being able to contribute when someone was repopping a decal and wanted to know, for sure, what the right codes were and the extra letters. |
02-12-2013, 07:02 AM | #5 |
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what i think is cool is if you own a 66 and you want the sticker to match your build even if you use non original components, like say a turbo 350 or LS engine... you can make the spid match exactly what you're building. heck, looking at it that way, it doesn't even have to be a 66... its cool just to have the option list on the glovebox lid.
thanks cortcomp for getting this thread started and also thanks to all you contributing members of big knowledge. |
02-12-2013, 01:45 PM | #6 |
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There were Build Sheets previous to 66 that would have had these codes as well. There was a thread on build sheets on here.
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02-13-2013, 12:16 PM | #7 |
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Information from the same book as the RPO's mentioned above. P&A 25T
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02-13-2013, 12:37 PM | #8 |
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gmcdeadhead's plate codes.
Engine: L25AF RPO= L25 is a 292 ECL= ( A ) - Flywheel ( F ) - Clutch Housing Could this be right. The engine has the clutch and bell housing pre-installed.
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02-13-2013, 01:06 PM | #9 |
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Am i reading those sheets right that, for a given year, the two digit RPO code in the right column would be the two digits you add to the generic 3 character RPO option code to have the right code on your sticker?
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02-13-2013, 01:26 PM | #10 |
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So far that`s the information that we`ve found. The two letters can change with every production year. The RPO `Regular Production Order indicated what was asked for and the two letters informed the guy on the assembly line to put the correct matching parts. For instance a 292 motor for a 4 speed had different ECL than a Powerglide . The assembly line must have had engines set up with clutch assemblies as well as flexplates for Automatics. I still guessing at this point.
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02-13-2013, 02:41 PM | #11 |
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Major props Cortcomp, Aerotruk63, 60-66, and ALL you guys that are piecing together this complex puzzle. The Corvette guys are all about this type of research and have enjoyed a thorough understanding of nearly every aspect of their cars for many years, so I think it's great we are getting started on it too.
Keep it up boys, you really are breaking ground here! |
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I've been building cars in GM assembly plants for 34 years, as a production supervisor, in Product Engineering and (for the last 14 years) in new product launch, and, based on my experience..... ....you are correct. I don't have much time to write long sweeping narratives but I would be happy to answer any specfic questions you guys might have. K
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A couple additional comments -
a) I learned something new from this thread; I didn't realize those additional characters beyond the three space RPO code actually meant something. By they time I started in the '"73 and beyond" those had been reduced to mere dummy characters as placeholders. Now I see why they were there in the first place. b) My professional expertise is in full size truck engineering and assembly, starting in 1979. My historical focus is the Pontiac Michigan assembly center of the mid 1960's. If you have some time to do some general reading I would recommend these links: This is specific to Camaros, but applies to all GM assembly plants in general http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml#chev This is more related to '73-'87, pictures with some insightful commentary: http://www.73-87.com/7387info/Assembly%20Line.htm The definitive overview of Pontiac passenger car assembly in the mid 60's ("Made in Pontiac" series; 5 parts): http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-b...=9990401240631 This will give you a basic overview of how the cars/trucks were assembled, and therefore what the requirements were as far as receiving the RPO information, how that was disseminated through the plant to help facilitate the build, and how the parts needed to be configured to accomplish that. I'll try to take some time and read through the previous 3 pages to see if I can learn something else or perhaps share some insights. K
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I'm really excited to have this coming together for our 66's, not just because i have one, but because it's not as well documented for our trucks as later ones. Exciting stuff!
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In the 5th picture you will see the 9512 COPO Special order code for Cortcomps SPID sheet. Still cant find 9211. Have been asking quite a few people. My DATA book is an early printing and I know there was a later 66 printing that may have more info. I looked in my 67 Truck Data book but nothing there either. Still a lot of good info. Will keep reading.I have all the data books 1960-1970.
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My God, what a can of worms have we opened here! Dave the guy in the email above, has a bunch of 1966 truck invoices for sale. He has 63 as well which interests me more. Also has more ``Check the Champ `` stuff but that`s a whole other game than this one.
60-66 I bow before you. Literature junkie extreme. Data books ooohhhh.
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We need to find the GM sponsored retired employee site. To think of all the answers that Dad`s & Grandpa`s have. Twenty Five plus years ago I called GM Detroit and was directed to a place they called ``The Hobby Shop ``. While they were a bit peeved that I had been transferred, they sent me a inch thick of photo copy`s of the 1963 Chevrolet Truck Data Book.
I also around the same time, called Rockwell International about my 62 transfer case and was transferred to their Military Division. The guy was super nice on the phone and sent me a taped together series copy`s to make up the technical drawing of the transfer case, a copy of the parts list and exploded view.
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Look at all those shiny new cabs rolling out...they'd fetch more now than the whole truck did then!
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Keep up the good work guys! this is great stuff.
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Here's the documents from my 66 C10, finally got the build sheet out of the back of the seat, protectoplate and found a picture of it with a pop up style camper. Truck was used for hunting in Utah I believe.
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All I got out of my truck was a rock! lol
Could you scan your build sheet?
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