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Old 11-26-2008, 01:34 PM   #1
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POWER STEERING , how long?

I wanted to do my power steering swap this Friday, and wanted to ask those who have done it about how long "should" it take?
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:52 PM   #2
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

It all depends on:

your skill level
if you have all the correct parts
the tools you have

I have done several power steering conversions on 4-5-6 Chevy trucks and it can be done in a long afternoon. If all goes well, it can be done in 6-8 hours.

Surely, someone will chime in and say they can do it quicker, however I am not trying to win a contest to see who is faster, I just know how long it usually takes me.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:02 PM   #3
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

Cool LILRED.
I wanted to know if it could be done in a day , and who beter to ask then those who have done it. Im still debating on using my tilt or wating to do it when I re wire thanks
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:29 PM   #4
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Cool LILRED.
I wanted to know if it could be done in a day , and who beter to ask then those who have done it. Im still debating on using my tilt or wating to do it when I re wire thanks
If you have the tilt column that matches your power steering box, that may save you some grief - already the correct length/connections
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:04 PM   #5
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

yeah it all depends on what parts you are using. I did our '66 in about the time frame Tony is saying, i used factory p/s steering brackets, had to raise the engine slightly to install them. I had to do some frame welding. found some cracks under the manual box. The truck already had the newer cross member and steering components. I did use the stock column, so I had to cut it down and weld it. oh and it takes a little bit of time to bleed the air out of the system also.
it is very do-able in a day
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:55 PM   #6
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Great !! I have the pump already instaled, and the p/s kit from CPP for my year 1960, hoses,belt and gear.
I'll post pics thanks again
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:27 PM   #7
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

It goes easily enough; I had my whole front end apart so no idea about the time frame. I thought the hardest thing would be shortening the steering shaft and even that turned out well.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:22 AM   #8
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

a good days work.. You got the newer tilt so everything should line for you easy..
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:26 AM   #9
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It's taken me a year and a half and I'm not half way done yet.
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:54 AM   #10
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Wait a minute...I thought you had P/S already ??
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:20 PM   #11
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Wait a minute...I thought you had P/S already ??
I have the pump installed, but have not got around to installing the box, hoses and fixing the steering shaft
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

I thought I seen a P/S pump on your sixer at the Alum Rock gettogether last time ??
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:48 PM   #13
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

I've done a few 60-66s. Just did a 62 with the 250 3 on the tree. That one was a PITA. Definetly doable in a day as stated depending on what all you want to do, ie column etc.
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Old 11-27-2008, 09:55 PM   #15
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

ok help the new old truck guy out with a question. Why is your ps pump behind that other item in your engine bay? Every one I have ever seen is on its own bracket off of the belt drive track. Thanks and sorry again for the rookie question.

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ok help the new old truck guy out with a question. Why is your ps pump behind that other item in your engine bay? Every one I have ever seen is on its own bracket off of the belt drive track. Thanks and sorry again for the rookie question.

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Old 11-27-2008, 10:24 PM   #17
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I thought I seen a P/S pump on your sixer at the Alum Rock gettogether last time ??
yea I had the pump mounted but not hooked up.
ok here is an up date. Old gear is out ,addapter and new gear mounted, steering shaft is cut.
As allways, I did run into a few problems, old pitman arm needed a lot of coaxing to get it out. 2nd ,the addaptor plates instructions were a bit "off" it said to drill out the lower front bolt hole on the new gear, I found out that on the 60 I had to drill out the upper hole on the rear. And 3rd my pitman arm on the donor gear is not leting me tighten it up, so I'll get a new one tomorow
That said it wasnt bad I still need to install the hoses, and get one bolt to finish mounting the box. I also need to install the steering shaft, and get that pitman arm and bleed it .
I know I said i was going to do this Friday but who wants to watch the Lions play? anyways I took some pics, and will post them when all is done. Thanks to all who said it was an afternoon job it is.
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It all depends on:

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the tools you have

I have done several power steering conversions on 4-5-6 Chevy trucks and it can be done in a long afternoon. If all goes well, it can be done in 6-8 hours.

Surely, someone will chime in and say they can do it quicker, however I am not trying to win a contest to see who is faster, I just know how long it usually takes me.
I did mine in 19 minutes 17 seconds! Just kidding, LilRed66 is probably pretty close to an average time it would take providing you have the correcct parts, tools and a fair amount of skill. I'd think the average competent DIYer could do it in an afternoon.
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ok help the new old truck guy out with a question. Why is your ps pump behind that other item in your engine bay? Every one I have ever seen is on its own bracket off of the belt drive track. Thanks and sorry again for the rookie question.

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That is a rare generator/power steering unit from the tri 5 chevys. I believe it came on 58 and 9 cars too. The p/s pump and brackets for the 250 "stovebolt's" are like hens teeth to find. I did find a set of brackets for the 250 but decided to use this instead since I found a rebuilt unit fairly inexpensive. Had to custom make the mounts and rebuild the generator. Worked awesome!!!
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Re: POWER STEERING , how long?

well like always, something came up. I need to replace the pitman arm, but I didnt want to wait to get one from work on monday, so I orderd it from a local parts house.
It will be in at 11 am they told me . So in the mean time I installed the hoses, worked on the steering shaft, and finished installing the box.
I called to see if my pitman arm had come in,nope. The driver left it at the wharehouse, It will be in at 12:30 , so I waited . At 12:30 I get a call "your BALL JOINT is in , yup ball joint..... So now I have to wait till tomorow.
any ways any tips on installing the pitman arm ?
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all done !! I will post pics soon
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well....you know what is coming........

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well....you know what is coming........

yea yea yea.................

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Old 11-30-2008, 10:38 PM   #25
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the old gear is out, no problem with the frame......

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