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Old 09-15-2010, 07:04 PM   #1
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Dually drop questions

After doing (quite) a bit of research, it looks like a 1/2 ton swap into my dually is going to be a considerable PITA. I started looking at pictures of lowered Duallies and they look good, but I have a few questions. Since I really have my heart set on having a CCSB 1/2 ton, that is the way I am still leaning. But....

-What kind of drop could I expect by doing a flip in the rear, and spindles and cutting the springs in the front?

-Will it stil be able to haul like stock, or at least a loaded car trailer?

-Is there actually room to do a flip and keep most of the springs? I don't think mine is already lowered at all, but the bump stops are lower than the top of the springs.

I have access to a SWB frame along with all of the 1/2 ton suspension, and already have a clean short bed. Would I be time and trouble ahead to just cut the rear of the SWB frame, and graft it onto the rear of the 1 ton frame I have now?

it is entirely possible I am overthinking things, but I am trying to keep downtime to a minimum. Any help, insight, or advise is appreciated.
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:14 PM   #2
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Re: Dually drop questions

it would need a c-notch in the back with the flip then you could hall anything like stock
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:35 PM   #3
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Re: Dually drop questions

Treat the dually just like the previous 1/2 ton. Spindles & trimmed front coils; flip kit w/a c-notch in the rear.

Disclaimer: It's still going to ride like a 1-ton dually. Ride tech's rear dually 'air bar' set-up is an excellent investment here. Full capacity w/the ride of a 1/2 ton.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:29 PM   #4
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I figured it might still ride like that. Consensus around our house is that it should have 2 rear wheels, not 4. I think I was losing sight of what I really want, thinking it would be a lot easier. I still want a 1/2 ton CCSB.

I was under it looking at the difference in the spring height, and the shocks. Id doesn't look like there is any clearance at all to do a flip kit.
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I figured it might still ride like that. Consensus around our house is that it should have 2 rear wheels, not 4. I think I was losing sight of what I really want, thinking it would be a lot easier. I still want a 1/2 ton CCSB.

I was under it looking at the difference in the spring height, and the shocks. Id doesn't look like there is any clearance at all to do a flip kit.
Maybe build the compromise?? Check out Hills Hauler (Hills Hot Rod shop) or the CCSB build that cochino sold to ?? (drawing a blank @ the moment). Both trucks are CCSB 3/4 ton & look nice......
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:06 PM   #6
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Re: Dually drop questions

Sidewalls on the tires have as much to do with ride as anything. Since I don't pull a 5th wheel or very heavy bumper hitch, I've gotten away from the 10-ply tires and started using LT highway tires. Made more difference than anything else I've tried.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:14 PM   #7
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Maybe build the compromise?? Check out Hills Hauler (Hills Hot Rod shop) or the CCSB build that cochino sold to ?? (drawing a blank @ the moment). Both trucks are CCSB 3/4 ton & look nice......
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some days i wish my truck was still 8 lug, but the 8 lug suspension stuff is super heavy and I love the way my truck rides
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:26 PM   #8
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It looks like everything is different from single wheel to dual wheel anyhow, so it would still need to be switched out. That, and we have a 1/2 ton parts truck. I was planning on new bushings and all anyhow.
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:43 PM   #9
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Re: Dually drop questions

Another concern about staying 1 ton or 3/4 ton is availability of wheels. The one tons have a decent selection if you want to convert to 22's but the price goes way up. The 3/4 tons are pretty limited. Adam spent forever trying to find a wheel he liked.
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I vote for you to do a 4/6 drop with spindles and springs up front and shackles and pull a couple of leafs out back. Keep it a dually and chop up a single wheel 3/4 ton for the wife!
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You'll be hard pressed to find another dually this nice once you decide you really want a dually (because they're so badass). Great looking truck as it sits, by the way.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:01 PM   #12
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Doesnt your 1 ton ride great? My dually rides better than my 03' 3/4hd. Keep it a dually, if you really want to tinker make it a short bed.
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Re: Dually drop questions

I keep hearing this. Needs a little more road time, I think.

Adam, do you think a 700 is going to hold up in your truck? I keep hearing that it won't, but the step up to a 4L80E is pretty steep!
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I keep hearing this. Needs a little more road time, I think.

Adam, do you think a 700 is going to hold up in your truck? I keep hearing that it won't, but the step up to a 4L80E is pretty steep!
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I got an idea....
Why don't we swap trucks, then you can paint it whatever color you want and I could cut yours up
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No offense Joe, but I don't like your idea.
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Old 09-17-2010, 06:07 PM   #18
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My wife would kill me anyway, I'd be having your same dilemma about keeping it a dually
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Jon I think it would look killer with a nice drop and some some Eagle dually wheels instead of the more expensive Alcoa's with the 10 lug i believe. Also I am going to get the Torque Thrusts tomorrow and I will get them to you either tomorrow or Sunday. Sorry about that bro. If you really want the ccsb, then i will keep my eyes open for you; do a google images search for chevy dually on 20 inch wheels or something like that and see what images come up. I am about to see what I can find that I think you might like.
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my vote is to go ccsb. Just because i need some motivation to get my done. I also started with a dually you can switch all the suspension in a weekend with a buddies help.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:35 PM   #22
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Triveno, I am moving this weekend. I will be back at work Tuesday. No rush. I am starting to lean toards keeping my truck whole, but I think our '87 SWB truck that was going to get parted may get a new lease on life.
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