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**Palf70Step** · 01-02-2006, 07:39 PM

Got into a lot more than I planned on today. I was running tests on the engine in the 69 and came up with some low compression Most cylinders were 95 and 2 were 110 and 1 was 115. Bottom end is still knocking and screaching. Jacob (Krazy_texan) and his seabee bud Justin came buy and decided to pitch in and help me pull the clip. Well, we after a meeting of the mindless we decided to also yank the engine. Within a couple hours, clip and engine are out of the grease encrusted truck.

Note to self. When you buy engine stand, you must also buy bolts to hook the engine with

Old fashion, on the floor, on wood blocks tear down.

So far the teardown does not look to bad. The intake was not on tight, and I found a nail sticking out of a water jacket. No bent pushrods and they all seemed good. I have a feeling I'll see the real mess when I pull the botton end. I have found some bits of metal shavings in the engine valley. There is not much of a ridge on the cyclnder walls and no bad scoring on the driver's side. Not sure if I'll rebuild now or crate it. I'll have to see what the the other side and botton end is like.

Here are some shots of the fun today.

Thanks to my resident SeaBees. Could not have done it without you guys.

Striker169 · 01-02-2006, 08:14 PM

man that looks fun! Keep us updated!

Bowtie67 · 01-02-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palf70Step

. So far the teardown does not look to bad. The intake was not on tight, and I found a nail sticking out of a water jacket.

I think someone put some carpenter ants in the motor, where else would a nail come from...

**Palf70Step** · 01-02-2006, 08:31 PM

With all the other crap that was lying on there, I could believe there was carpenter ants in there

.

Well I just made my decision...Found out the engine is not a 350 but a 305. Least according to the castings.

Block ID

GM 50L0
14010201 According to MORTEC says it is an 80-85 305

Head casting 14014416 again 305 w 1.84/1.5 valves 58CC heads.

Time for a 350 crate I guess.

Unless some one wants to through a big block my way

**tnblazerk5** · 01-02-2006, 08:50 PM

was it brown shirt day also

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowtie67

I think someone put some carpenter ants in the motor, where else would a nail come from...

lmfao

**Palf70Step** · 01-02-2006, 08:54 PM

Only for the Seamen

My shirt is not permitted on the board.

**tnblazerk5** · 01-02-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step

Only for the Seamen

My shirt is not permitted on the board.

Longhorn Man · 01-02-2006, 10:07 PM

Hmmm, a caddy 500 would fit right in there.

**Palf70Step** · 01-02-2006, 10:29 PM

I have been tempted too Andy, I already have the late model mounts.

**tnblazerk5** · 01-02-2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palf70Step

I have been tempted too Andy, I already have the late model mounts.

well drop one of those big boys in there then

chevybill · 01-02-2006, 11:00 PM

Bill, I know a guy who has an early 70's 4 door caddy that is running.
I think it has a 472. He would probably sell it, but he would be selling from the perspective of selling a running driving car, not a "parts" car.

**Palf70Step** · 01-02-2006, 11:04 PM

Thanks, but I think for now I'll be doing the 350. I want to get this up and running. I want to drive one, not just fab one. Hopefully I can get this back up running soon and finish the fab work on the 70 cab then swap things over.

GMan69 · 01-02-2006, 11:43 PM

MAN, you guys tore into it, didn't ya? Yes, bolts would help with an engine stand.

Longhorn Man · 01-02-2006, 11:59 PM

Bolts to an engine stand are kinda like all the little pipe fittings you need for an intake. I think they do that intentionally just to get you into the parts store again.

krue · 01-03-2006, 12:25 AM

Sounds like ya'll did some good today. 305 huh, figures.

BTW holler at me when you get a chance. Got a question for ya.

Brad · 01-03-2006, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnblazerk5

was it brown shirt day also

Real men wear BLACK shirts!

USAF

Good luck with the engine!

**tnblazerk5** · 01-03-2006, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

Bolts to an engine stand are kinda like all the little pipe fittings you need for an intake. I think they do that intentionally just to get you into the parts store again.

i think your rite on that

**Palf70Step** · 01-03-2006, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad

Real men wear BLACK shirts!

USAF

Couldn't agree with you more (From one Zoomie to another

)
But free help is free help.

**Yukon Jack** · 01-03-2006, 12:22 PM

So, what crate motor are you considering?

**Palf70Step** · 01-03-2006, 02:18 PM

Yukon, just your basic stock 350.

GM # 10067353
Engine Name: 350 LM1
Horsepower: 249 HP @ 5,000 RPM
Torque: 304 Ft/Lbs @ 3,500 RPM
Compression Ratio: 8.50 to 1
Block: 4 – Bolt, 2 Piece Rear Seal, 4.000” Bore
Crankshaft: Cast Nodular 3.480” Stroke
Heads: Cast Iron, 76cc
Valves: 1.940” / 1.500”
Camshaft lift: 0.390” / 0.410” Hydraulic
Duration @ 0.050”: 195° / 202°
Intake: Not Included

krazy_texan · 01-03-2006, 07:01 PM

with the black shirts on you cant tell that you did anything which is typical of all you high flyin type that picture just goes to show who was really doing the work anyway but I got it done and in reasonable time to

Sweet72 · 01-03-2006, 10:07 PM

I got my money on the squids (I guess they call SeaBee's that too). From a former swabby.

krue · 01-03-2006, 10:30 PM

That's right.

**Palf70Step** · 01-03-2006, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazy_texan

with the black shirts on you cant tell that you did anything which is typical of all you high flyin type that picture just goes to show who was really doing the work anyway but I got it done and in reasonable time to

Man take them away from water and it all goes to their heads

krue · 01-03-2006, 10:42 PM

A sailor is never far from water cuz he's always sweating from the work he does (which you airboy types wouldn't know anything about.

)

01-02-2006, 07:39 PM	#1
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,818	The day of grease Got into a lot more than I planned on today. I was running tests on the engine in the 69 and came up with some low compression Most cylinders were 95 and 2 were 110 and 1 was 115. Bottom end is still knocking and screaching. Jacob (Krazy_texan) and his seabee bud Justin came buy and decided to pitch in and help me pull the clip. Well, we after a meeting of the mindless we decided to also yank the engine. Within a couple hours, clip and engine are out of the grease encrusted truck. Note to self. When you buy engine stand, you must also buy bolts to hook the engine with Old fashion, on the floor, on wood blocks tear down. So far the teardown does not look to bad. The intake was not on tight, and I found a nail sticking out of a water jacket. No bent pushrods and they all seemed good. I have a feeling I'll see the real mess when I pull the botton end. I have found some bits of metal shavings in the engine valley. There is not much of a ridge on the cyclnder walls and no bad scoring on the driver's side. Not sure if I'll rebuild now or crate it. I'll have to see what the the other side and botton end is like. Here are some shots of the fun today. Thanks to my resident SeaBees. Could not have done it without you guys. Attached Images __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God! Last edited by Palf70Step; 01-02-2006 at 07:41 PM.

01-02-2006, 08:14 PM	#2
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: The day of grease man that looks fun! Keep us updated!

01-02-2006, 08:31 PM	#4
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,818	Re: The day of grease With all the other crap that was lying on there, I could believe there was carpenter ants in there . Well I just made my decision...Found out the engine is not a 350 but a 305. Least according to the castings. Block ID GM 50L0 14010201 According to MORTEC says it is an 80-85 305 Head casting 14014416 again 305 w 1.84/1.5 valves 58CC heads. Time for a 350 crate I guess. Unless some one wants to through a big block my way __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God! Last edited by Palf70Step; 01-02-2006 at 08:33 PM.

01-02-2006, 08:54 PM	#6
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,818	Re: The day of grease Only for the Seamen My shirt is not permitted on the board. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-02-2006, 10:07 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: The day of grease Hmmm, a caddy 500 would fit right in there.

01-02-2006, 10:29 PM	#9
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,818	Re: The day of grease I have been tempted too Andy, I already have the late model mounts. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-02-2006, 11:00 PM	#11
chevybill Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: calhoun city ms Posts: 940	Re: The day of grease Bill, I know a guy who has an early 70's 4 door caddy that is running. I think it has a 472. He would probably sell it, but he would be selling from the perspective of selling a running driving car, not a "parts" car. __________________ ongoing 1970 c 10 lwb 1994 z-28 few mods.-owned since new 1978 vette silver/grey 25th anniv. paint

01-02-2006, 11:04 PM	#12
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,818	Re: The day of grease Thanks, but I think for now I'll be doing the 350. I want to get this up and running. I want to drive one, not just fab one. Hopefully I can get this back up running soon and finish the fab work on the 70 cab then swap things over. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-02-2006, 11:43 PM	#13
GMan69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Hernando, MS USA Posts: 1,152	Re: The day of grease MAN, you guys tore into it, didn't ya? Yes, bolts would help with an engine stand. __________________ George Morgan Hernando, MS '69 C-10 swb fleetside '72 GMC swb Stepside

01-02-2006, 11:59 PM	#14
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: The day of grease Bolts to an engine stand are kinda like all the little pipe fittings you need for an intake. I think they do that intentionally just to get you into the parts store again.

01-03-2006, 12:25 AM	#15
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: The day of grease Sounds like ya'll did some good today. 305 huh, figures. BTW holler at me when you get a chance. Got a question for ya. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck" Last edited by krue; 01-03-2006 at 12:28 AM.

01-03-2006, 12:22 PM	#19
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	Re: The day of grease So, what crate motor are you considering? __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

01-03-2006, 02:18 PM	#20
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,818	Re: The day of grease Yukon, just your basic stock 350. GM # 10067353 Engine Name: 350 LM1 Horsepower: 249 HP @ 5,000 RPM Torque: 304 Ft/Lbs @ 3,500 RPM Compression Ratio: 8.50 to 1 Block: 4 – Bolt, 2 Piece Rear Seal, 4.000” Bore Crankshaft: Cast Nodular 3.480” Stroke Heads: Cast Iron, 76cc Valves: 1.940” / 1.500” Camshaft lift: 0.390” / 0.410” Hydraulic Duration @ 0.050”: 195° / 202° Intake: Not Included __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-03-2006, 07:01 PM	#21
krazy_texan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Des Moines, Ia Posts: 3,233	Re: The day of grease with the black shirts on you cant tell that you did anything which is typical of all you high flyin type that picture just goes to show who was really doing the work anyway but I got it done and in reasonable time to __________________ Krazy Texan My Trucks are made with Wrenches not Chop Sticks 1967 GMC 3/4 ton "Johnny Cash" 1990 v1500 suburban 1967 Ford f100 Swb 4x4 "green bean" GOD BLESS JESUS, JOHN WAYNE, AND THE ALAMO

01-03-2006, 10:07 PM	#22
Sweet72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,534	Re: The day of grease I got my money on the squids (I guess they call SeaBee's that too). From a former swabby. __________________ '72 GMC SWB C1500 Custom, frame-off in progress. 383 SBC, 9:1CR, Comp Cams XE262H, Scat internal balanced crank, Eagle SIR 6" rods, Keith Black dish pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 72/180 heads, Weiand Stealth intake, Stewart stage I water pump, Holley 4bbl vac sec, TH350 with B&M Shift Improver Kit. 12 bolt positraction.



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01-03-2006, 10:30 PM	#23
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: The day of grease That's right. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

01-03-2006, 10:42 PM	#25
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: The day of grease A sailor is never far from water cuz he's always sweating from the work he does (which you airboy types wouldn't know anything about. ) __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

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