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Flat-Out Engineering front end?
Hello...has anybody installed a Flat-Out Engineering front end under their truck? I have the set-up and just have a few questions about how the steering shaft from the column to the rack worked and whether you had to replace the steering column.
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
With any R&P set-up on a C10, you'll most likely need to adjust the column length to suit your needs.
I can't answer specifically about the Flat-Out set-up, but I had to shorten my column around 6" to have more room in the cab & get a clean, non-binding angle under the hood for a Porterbuilt set-up.
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
It's inside the rails. My steering shaft runs between the upper a-arm + C/O mount & exhaust flange (Ramhorn style manifold). Getting the shaft centered between the 2 required getting column length just right.
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
Thanks for the info!
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
I have the Flat-Out Engineering front setup sitting in the bed of my 71 C10. Been looking at different peoples installs and such.
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1984 K5 Blazer 4x4. Because my daily driver needs to be a project too... ![]() 1971 C10. Auto Cross/Pro Touring Build. Project : I am gonna go broke with this one. 1970 Chevy LWB 4x4. 355, 4spd, Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, 35x12.50 tires... STOLEN I will put a Turbo on anything with an engine if the $$$ is right. Once upon a time.... |
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
I looked @ Flat Outs stuff but purchased a Porterbuilt C4 Dropmember back when he made them in the early days. It's all still sitting on some shelves in the shop.
One of these days. . .....
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
pretty sure you need to clock the r&p for better fitment.. somewhere i got a link on doing that with the flatout
from there itll take a couple of ujoints and a stabilizing bearing to get inline with the column..then use DD slip shaft to connect
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
There are some subpar photos in a few threads I found. Here is a video Link with some decent shots for the front suspension:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOzF3xNDf-8 In that video Dustin refers to the engine set back of nearly 10 inches to get the engine placement right due to the steering rack mounting location. If you look at the side shots of the truck the wheels are setback in the front wheel well towards the cab. His truck Flat work on the auto cross track. I talked to Don at Flat Out and he said the engine setback is not needed if the wheel is centered in the fender. I am building my truck for auto cross first and foremost. I will rework the steering rack situation if need be. Been a lot of times I thought I should have just built my own crossmember and used C6 or C7 Corvette front suspension components. I took the quicker way out.
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The video looks like he is using an 84-87 C4 set-up. I am using a 95 set-up. Apparently there is no way to hook up a sway bar on the later set-up. Just curious if anybody found one that works. |
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I am not sure how they would do that with the mounting. If you can find the link, it would be appreciated.
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As for the Sway bar I am gonna run a Splined setup. I will make the links myself. Engine placement and steering rack setup are my biggest concerns. The again thats what the Plasma cutter and Tig welder is for.
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
After 87, they moved the mounting for the sway bar to the center of the lower control arm. The earlier version had it on the front. I was told they tried the factory versions and numerous aftermarket versions and could not get one to work with any type of real tire.
That being said...I will bet I get one to work...LOL |
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Re: Flat-Out Engineering front end?
I went and looked at mine. Sorry..it isn't in the center, but it uses a different mounting style that the earlier versions and apparently, that interferes with sway bar due to the location of the rack.
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They have a booth set up at the Nashville Superspeedway today.
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Did a rough mock up on the tailgate of dads 72 C10 with my oldest son today. Sometimes I wish I had went with RideTech LOL.
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Yours looks good! Do you have a rack and pinion? Apparently they are getting hard to find. |
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From the threads and post I have found and couple guys I have talked too. Its the rack and pinion that is the biggest interference with engine placement. My truck is a cut down LWB truck. I have two other SWB frames. I don't have an issue cutting up the shortened fame to make this work. My original intention was to build a full custom frame. I just got a bit lazy... LOL
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