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I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
I want a 350 4 bolt engine vortex complete motor all new or rebuilt,,not sure which way to go .. ? from a reputable seller ..
I have a brand new edelbrock 600 I would like to use I will stop here with this info about what I want ,,and learn from some of you more about what I should look for or do or not do ... I will putting it in my 83 K10 Chevy Truck. I will appreciate pros and cons I would consider a 383 Stroker too
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
Larry, what is your budget? That's one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle. I have a Blueprint Engines engine (that doesn't sound right) in my truck. It's been great and I have had no issues with it. Lots to look at here, https://blueprintengines.com/collect...ock+Compatible
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
Another for Blue Print . Haven’t been driving it long but as of 450 miles I’m happy with it
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GOPAPA- You could buy a GM HT383. Its just a 383 version of the vortec 350, strait from GM.
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Not for nothing but the HT383 puts out 323 hp?
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I want a motor with HP just a litle over 300 as that will pull my small Travel Trailer . What all do you get for a complete engine ? I want vortex and 4 bolt main and could use my edelbrock 600 that is like new that can bring the price down??
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
Aint that the truth. My dad has a pretty new blueprint 383 and he is really happy with it. The GM 383 HT just needs a better cam to wake the eff up.
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I have some metal flakes in my oil filter when changing it ,,this is aft erI had the cam lashed with my solid rockers that it was found ,,and coming home it was a hot day but going 55 mph my oil guage was tapped out at 80 and then some.. can one figure that for every 1000 RPM's a 10-20 psi ? in these old chevies 350's
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blue print the owner can install the motor and not void the warranty. I bought a GM 700r4 years ago and it stated if it wasn’t installed by a dealer or ASE mechanic the warranty was voided
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
The biggest issue I have with crate engines is that they all seem to be built for racing. How about a 383 that will give you performance and torque with a lower rpm band and still be TBI and smog test friendly. Don't need 10-1 and .500 lift cam to get almost double what a factory tbi was back in the early 90s
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I built my own. I started with a 5.7 block from a 98 1 ton - 4 bolt main and drilled for a mechanical fuel pump. I had it bored .030 over, new pistons and cam, had the heads modified for the springs, and I was into it about $2,400 for parts and machine work. That was in 2020, so I'm sure it would be more today. It helped that I have a friend who owns a machine shop, so I got parts at his cost.
I ended up with around 330 HP and 400 lb-ft of torque. And it makes the torque nice and low.
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Have you looked at Jasper ? They cater to shops that replace stock engines and transmissions in everyday vehicles . I used them once for a 4.0 in a Jeep was a hood stock motor. But again you need a authorized installer
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
Thanks guys ,, I am undecided on what I will do ,, I appreciate all the information I ask for..
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
You don't need to be hung up on a 4 bolt main block for what it sounds like you want to do. I will also give another thumbs up for blue print. I have a 427SBC from them that came as long block, their heads accept regular and vortec style intakes, I've used both and both seal. I've also used a SBF302 and rebuilder series 350's, all have been great. They also have a warranty and they are really helpful over the phone.
Could you source a block and work with a machine shop to build you an engine, sure. Might it be cheaper, maybe, might also have to wait for parts, find a block and hope it's good, etc etc. For $4650 you get a virgin block, a warranty, roller cam, throw your carb, intake, and distributor in and enjoy your engine, plus it's in stock ready to ship from summit. https://blueprintengines.com/collect...ec2dbf43&_ss=c
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Blueprint will not sub out any part on their builds. I tried to get them to swap a water pump on a SBF application ordered directly through them. No luck, was a mute point as the car had the wrong stuff anyways and the engine came with what was needed to make it right.
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
Yeah its super low. But its literally a vortec 350 stroked with a still puny cam like he was asking for.
Personally, I don't get the love for crate engines. Rebuilding is so much fun. I like picking parts myself.
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I used to too . But with machine shops if you can find one that is charging 150 to 200 dollars per hour it gets spendy real quick . My last flywheel I had cut I had to bring it to Dyson racing in Poughkeepsie. I needed it right away a new one would have been cheaper
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Re: I am wanting opinions about buying a Motor
Picking parts myself is fun...but it can get daunting really quick. Depending on your relationship with the machine shop/builder it can also become frustrating trying to narrow down which brand bearings, how much over or undersized do you need, ring packs, gasket set, cam choice, will it work with the heads you want to run, etc etc. Then who's assembling it and checking clearances, do you have the space, tools, and time. For most people....a crate engine is far simpler (proven) option, that comes with a warranty. When I pulled the trigger on the 427SBC for my Camaro I had spent months going back & forth about finding a block and building a SBC, but parts availability and machine shop delays eventually cleared my head and I've been very happy with my decision.
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