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Old 05-24-2004, 10:21 PM   #1
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Requested Tubbing Pics

Some of you guys were asking about mini-tubbing & wanted to see some pics. As I stated in the other thread, mine is more than a 'mini-tub', but the same rule would apply just on a smaller scale. I also stepped my bed floor about 4".

I used 15x14" custom corvette ralleys w/9.75" of backspacing. Someone asked who I bought them from but I can't say for certain. I looked through my receipts & the only 'ralley wheel' receipt I could find was for another set of 15's I had made from a company called 'Ralley America' in March of 1992. I bought the 15x14's later & I'm pretty sure they came from Stockton wheel. I do know they had a service where they would send you a wheel w/the center pressed in so you could verify the offset would clear everything before permanently welding it in place.

For tires, I had MickeyThompson Sportsmans, 31x18.5x15. The truck was lowered about 6" and everything cleared. I shortened the stock panhard bar to center the rearend @ ride height.

Here are some of the pics . . ......
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Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 05-24-2004, 10:25 PM   #2
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Close-up of both sides w/o tubs. You can barely see my homemade c-section & reinforcement on top of the frame rail . . .....
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Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.

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Old 05-24-2004, 10:28 PM   #3
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Side view, rear, & bottom of the wheel tub.
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Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
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Old 05-24-2004, 10:30 PM   #4
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Here's a couple to give you the numbers . . .....
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It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 05-24-2004, 10:32 PM   #5
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The tubs installed (but not bolted in) & a couple 3/4 view front shots from each side . . ....
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It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 05-24-2004, 10:40 PM   #6
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The numbers for the backspacing were for my truck which had the 67/8 stock width 12bolt coil spring rear. The frame rails are stock width & unmodified except for the c-sections & reinforcements. I did remove the factory bumpstops & routed the e-brake cable so they wouldn't rub the inside of the tires.
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It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 05-24-2004, 11:08 PM   #7
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That looks great (so good in fact that is how I envisioned mine ).
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:26 PM   #8
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Very nice lookin tin work! crazyL
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Old 05-25-2004, 12:02 AM   #9
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Beautiful craftmanship SCOTTI (love to see more pics when its done). Doug
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Old 05-25-2004, 12:04 AM   #10
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Hmmmm....thats really making me think about doing mine....I would like to see some pics when it's got wheels and tires on it.
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Old 05-25-2004, 01:03 AM   #11
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why did you raise the floor between the tubs? was it nessesary? great pics. got any with the wheels and tires on it?
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why did you raise the floor between the tubs? was it nessesary?
The bed floor was raised because @ ride height the floor was resting on the rearends pumpkin (it's a little more than 6" now so yes it was necessary.

As for pics w/the big wheels & Mickeys? Sorry, they're long gone. It got some 18's & 20's for a while but they migrated to my 74. I've got plans for some new rollers (1 off customs) that scream Retro but they're gonna be $$.

My original intentions were to drive it w/the Mickeys for a while until they came out w/decent size tires for big diameter wheels (this was a few yrs ago by the way). But I decided not to compromise the build.... it will take as long as it takes to get it right, & not leave the garage until it's ready.
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It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

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Old 05-25-2004, 08:11 AM   #13
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Beautiful craftmanship SCOTTI (love to see more pics when its done). Doug
I can only take partial credit. I've had a lot of help along the way from some good friends & roomates over the years (and an ex-wife that put up w/it for many more). I will take full credit for it's direction & delay though .
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Old 05-25-2004, 09:09 AM   #14
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I will take full credit for it's direction & delay though .
Do I have to get in on this? Very good looking work Scoti. Too bad we will never see the finished truck...
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Too bad we will never see the finished truck...
Ken, I have a goal. It will be met.
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Ken, I have a goal. It will be met.
Good things come to those who are patient enough to spend the time on that last detail crazyL
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Very nice workmanship Scoti, be sure to keep us posted.
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looks awesome!

who did the sheetmetal work?
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This truck has been worked on by several individuals & shops. The cab work (corners & rockers) were done by a friend that worked for Sachse Rod Shop. I was fortunate enough to know the shop owner & son & was able to do a lot of the sheetmetal stuff in their building but the main metal/bodywork was done by Monty Ditmer of Dallas after he left their business.

Another one of Sachses x-employees, Roger, did an awsome job whipping me up a smooth cowl in exchange for letting them use my cab to build another customers smooth cowl (less warpage when it's bolted in place). He's now the same guy that N2TRUX had revamp his 77 Cheyenne. His fab skills are flat out awesome & he has a good eye for details.

I did the bed floor mods & had a good friend that welds precision sheetmetal actually weld it up for me after my attempts were less than desirable (I wanted minimal weld build-up/max penetration). I did the firewall & all the various fabbed panels..... I left the welding to the experts.

Monty is in business for himself @ Montiac Racing, Dallas TX. Roger is the shop manager @ Stoked Out Specialties in Rockwall TX.

I'm currently waiting for final suspension measurements to build my new front wheelwells & will seek 'Stoked Out's' guidance on hood hinge mods/relocation. All the sheetmetal was blasted bare (even the NEW, NOS, front GM fenders) then epoxy primed before bodywork started.

It will be completed.
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Great work Scot! I sure would like to see this thing in person though.

FYI, I still haven't made it to the track yet, I just haven't had the time.
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Awsome, now I know why I haven't seen ya in a while. I am way behind ya on my projects but am working on them. Got lots more parts. Yes I know gotta quit collecting parts and start building. Thought I would wait till it gets real hot outside to start!
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I showed these pics to a buddy of mine who might have to do the same thing. He wanted to know how you did the raised floor bends. They are so straight and even, just wondering what you had to do to get that great result. He also asked how you widened the wheel tubs.
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I measured & used a chalk line to mark my cut lines & then clamped a piece of thin flat bar across for a guide when making the actual cuts. I cut only the raised portion of the runner/bed floor. I then made a small jig from angle/steel that I clamped to the floor to be able to make the bends evenly, w/o distorting the metal.

The raised portion is actually part of the original floor & part of another floor. I cut & bent the donor floor to match the angles on the original floor & the welded them where the 2 floors butted together. I wanted to weld them this way to keep the amount of metal around the welds to a minimum (instead of right in the center of a big flat piece) as well as concentrate the area that would need possible bodywork. It worked very well as minimal body filler was needed.

For the angles of the 'kick-up', I just tried to mimic the bodyline thats on the tubs from the factory.
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