Which Welder? Miller, Lincoln, Hobart - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

grayw0lf · 05-29-2004, 02:47 AM

I'm looking at buying a Mig/Flux welder that puts out about 135 amps (no access to 220v). Lincoln, Miller, & Hobart all have very comparable machines. Miller tends to be just a bit more expensive.

So, I was wondering what is the best bang for my buck? What does the best job & will last me (occasional use) for about.... Life.?

Radke · 05-29-2004, 03:03 AM

home depot has Campell Hasfeld welders they are made by lincoln might check those

grayw0lf · 05-29-2004, 03:05 AM

Did you say Lincoln makes Campbell Hausfeld? All of them, or just a few? Cause even Wal-Mart carries Campbell Hausfeld.

piecesparts · 05-29-2004, 03:30 AM

I have a Miller 135 MIG welder, and I like it. The welder originally came with just the flux wire, that made to much spatter for me. I tried the CO2 bottle next, still to much spatter for clean welds. I now use the CO/ARGON mix bottle and this has worked real well for my welding. I have built throttle plates for carburetors, weldded sheetmetal parts up for my project truck, and even built 3/8 inch plate brackets for a sheetmetal bending stand. It is very versatile. I have had it for 7 years and I have approximately $600.00 invested in the welder and the cart.

JBARTGMC-10 · 05-29-2004, 08:07 AM

i use miller at work for steel welding they are the best in my 18 years of being a welder i allways had the least down time with miller welders and i have used them all. right now i use a cobra-maitc alum. welder for tank trailer repair and wish they would buy me a miller they run much better

*racedvl* · 05-29-2004, 08:31 AM

I just bought the Lincoln 135 PRO, and I love it! I actually bought the 135T first, and traded it in for the pro. Great peice of equpment! And it was well worth the extra money. The place I bought it from says the smaller Millers are just not ass good as the smaller Lincolns. He said the he gets the Millers back all the time as apposed to never getting the Lincolns back. He did say, if you were looking to get a bigger unit, Miller makes a good peice. But for what you want, get the 135 PRO, it's worth the extra $$$.

*Slams_58* · 05-29-2004, 09:19 AM

We just have a cheapo Arcweld brand mig/fluxcore welder that cost $300. It can weld anything up to 1/8" plate. I used it for all my patch panels and my flatbed

Solver · 05-29-2004, 09:28 AM

I bought the hobart 135 a little over a year ago and have been very happy with it. It was a special deal hobart releases every once in a while where the cart was included. It also was set up for gas minus the tank. I am a rookie welder and have rebuilt a full cab and replaced other veicle panels and have been very satisfied with it.

cdowns · 05-29-2004, 09:37 AM

i have had a lincoln for about 7-8 years have been very happy with it, hobart and miller are also good quality machines. the quality of the welds has alot more to do with the operater than the brand IMO

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 05-29-2004, 09:50 AM

I bought a miller matic 135 about 6 month's ago and love it still learning the basic's of welding but it has been a great little machine. I did upgrade to the steelmix and not the flux and it sure make's a nicer weld that is easier to clean up...

Radke · 05-29-2004, 10:02 AM

The factory at lincoln told me that they build all campbell welders .

glock35ipsc · 05-29-2004, 10:07 AM

While Millers are my favorite (I use a DeltaWeld 452 at work), the Miller and Hobart machines are essentially the same (like Chevrolet and GMC trucks). My Millermatic 210 is identical to the Hobart Ironman 210, just a different color and decal. I have a little experience with the Lincolns, but didn't like the performance of them. But that was a larger welder on 1/2" to 1" thick material. For auto sheet metal and smaller stuff, the little 135's from Miller or Hobart are excellent machines!

FWIW, Harbor Freight has the Hobart 135's on sell every once in awhile for around $430.

My personal favorites???

*1972C10* · 05-29-2004, 12:25 PM

If your going to buy a milermatic 135 you may as well get a hobart same parts different color case . same warranty Its not called the true blue 3 year but it does carry the same warranty I got my little hobart handler 135 for like 379 at TSC Its a good little welder I have never used a lincoln 135 so i cant compare but a friend of mine had one of those 115s from home depot it wasnt anywhere near the welder that this hobart is.

O and this hobart came with all the stuff for gas as well.

glock35ipsc · 05-29-2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972C10

I got my little hobart handler 135 for like 379 at TSC Its a good little welder

Wow, that's a good price. They can't be found that cheap around here. What is TSC? Is that Tractor Supply?

I've had my Hobart 135 for a couple years now. Excellent machine! I am more partial to the Millers over the Hobarts for really only one reason....... I like the color blue!!

*1972C10* · 05-29-2004, 12:38 PM

Yeah Tractor Supply Company Its been a year or two since i got it but the prices havent gone up that much..

I was up there the other day eyeballing that hobart IRON MAN 210 for 999.99 I asked about layaway they said if i put down 10% and pay it off within 3 months so I may be boasting about my new 210 amp soon

glock35ipsc · 05-29-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972C10

I was up there the other day eyeballing that hobart IRON MAN 210 for 999.99 I asked about layaway they said if i put down 10% and pay it off within 3 months so I may be boasting about my new 210 amp soon

That will be the same as the Miller 210 I have, and I LOVE that welder! I have been using it more than the 135 lately.I can turn it down far enough to do auto body sheet metal with no burnthrough, yet still do frame work, and even up to 1/2" with no problems! I was wondering at first if I shouldn't have got the 251 instead, but I am very happy with the 210.

BTW, what is your avatar pic? Is that an SKS with a Monte Carlo stock? Can't quite tell, too smal for me eyesl

PanelDeland · 05-29-2004, 01:01 PM

"If I was going to buy a welder I'd buy this one cause it's blue.I really like blue."
From a local mower commercial.

glock35ipsc · 05-29-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

"If I was going to buy a welder I'd buy this one cause it's blue.I really like blue."
From a local mower commercial.

**Palf70Step** · 05-29-2004, 01:19 PM

I got a Lincoln through these folks
http://www.weldingmart.com/

It was refurbished by Lincoln and warrentied by Lincoln as a new machine. Mine is a 110V welder also and it has served me fine for the last year. The cost of the refurbished unit was less than half the new ones. I believe with shipping I paid around $350 for the Mig setup outfit. Everything but the tank...I think mine is an SP-100T or SP-110.

72dually · 05-29-2004, 03:27 PM

Im considering the new hobart 140, they claim up to 1/4", and still house plug friendly
Ebay's got them for $424-434 from the same guy w/free shipping, it does'nt appear that he's sold any yet, he's still fishing the market, so I'll be patient till he drops the price to around $400, than I'll drop the hammer on one

*1972C10* · 05-29-2004, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by glock35ipsc

BTW, what is your avatar pic? Is that an SKS with a Monte Carlo stock? Can't quite tell, too smal for me eyesl

yeah its a chinky with a monte carlo stock I just recently traded it off it was an impulse buy to begin with gave 100 for the gun and picked that stock up at a gun shop for 13 bucks I couldnt hit the red side of a barn with that thing I was fortunate to hit the same spot twice i think someone had shot alot of rounds trou it and then proped it up in a posistion to bend the barrel .

Aint no tellin those guns are old to begin with

I think if i ever got into another SKS i would get a unissued yugo out of center fire there only like 80 bucks Friend of mine got one its fairly accurate and really clean for a wood stock sks

*Shane* · 05-29-2004, 08:05 PM

My vote goes to the Miller as well. I have a Miller Cricket ... purchased it in the late 80's ... still works like a champ. I believe it is the predecessor to the smaller Miller Matic. It is designed for material up to 1/4" thick. I upgraded to the gas option and back when I purchased mine, you couldn't touch a smaller unit like this with the gas option for under a grand! So I can't really reply on the price ... but my Miller has seen it's fair share of use and abuse and is still tickin' like a Timex!

glock35ipsc · 05-29-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972C10

yeah its a chinky with a monte carlo stock I just recently traded it off it was an impulse buy to begin with gave 100 for the gun and picked that stock up at a gun shop for 13 bucks I couldnt hit the red side of a barn with that thing I was fortunate to hit the same spot twice i think someone had shot alot of rounds trou it and then proped it up in a posistion to bend the barrel .

Aint no tellin those guns are old to begin with

I think if i ever got into another SKS i would get a unissued yugo out of center fire there only like 80 bucks Friend of mine got one its fairly accurate and really clean for a wood stock sks

I love them things. I have 2 unissued and 1 shooters grade Yugo, 1 M59 Yugo (w/o grenade launcher), 2 Albanians, a Romanian and a Russian. Sold the Norinco a couple years ago.

glock35ipsc · 05-29-2004, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

My vote goes to the Miller as well. I have a Miller Cricket ... purchased it in the late 80's ... still works like a champ. I believe it is the predecessor to the smaller Miller Matic. It is designed for material up to 1/4" thick. I upgraded to the gas option and back when I purchased mine, you couldn't touch a smaller unit like this with the gas option for under a grand! So I can't really reply on the price ... but my Miller has seen it's fair share of use and abuse and is still tickin' like a Timex!

Wow, I forgot about the Crickets! My Dad bought on in the mid to late 80's too. He still has that thing! No gas, just flux wire, but it welds just fine!

*1972C10* · 05-30-2004, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by glock35ipsc

I love them things. I have 2 unissued and 1 shooters grade Yugo, 1 M59 Yugo (w/o grenade launcher), 2 Albanians, a Romanian and a Russian. Sold the Norinco a couple years ago.

Yeah there alot of fun to shoot almost as cheap as a 22

Friend of mine just got a rusky its alot louder than the ole norinco i had same length barrel but man it was as loud as my -06 I thought about tryin to swindle him out of it but i made the mistake of telling him what its worth when he got i

05-29-2004, 02:47 AM	#1
grayw0lf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 1,253	Which Welder? Miller, Lincoln, Hobart I'm looking at buying a Mig/Flux welder that puts out about 135 amps (no access to 220v). Lincoln, Miller, & Hobart all have very comparable machines. Miller tends to be just a bit more expensive. So, I was wondering what is the best bang for my buck? What does the best job & will last me (occasional use) for about.... Life.? __________________ 85' CUCV M1009!!! The newest addition! 6.2diesel, Th400, NP208, & only 36k miles! 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside - Looking good these days! 05' Dodge Neon 88' Winner Escape Sport 1750 - 4.3v6 94' Seadoo SP 84' Honda TRX200, bare nekkid. Just a frame & tires. Always looking for another project or any good deal!

05-29-2004, 03:05 AM	#3
grayw0lf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 1,253	Did you say Lincoln makes Campbell Hausfeld? All of them, or just a few? Cause even Wal-Mart carries Campbell Hausfeld. __________________ 85' CUCV M1009!!! The newest addition! 6.2diesel, Th400, NP208, & only 36k miles! 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside - Looking good these days! 05' Dodge Neon 88' Winner Escape Sport 1750 - 4.3v6 94' Seadoo SP 84' Honda TRX200, bare nekkid. Just a frame & tires. Always looking for another project or any good deal!

05-29-2004, 09:28 AM	#8
Solver Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Storm Lake, Ia Posts: 1,449	I bought the hobart 135 a little over a year ago and have been very happy with it. It was a special deal hobart releases every once in a while where the cart was included. It also was set up for gas minus the tank. I am a rookie welder and have rebuilt a full cab and replaced other veicle panels and have been very satisfied with it. __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 LWB-Blue 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Black 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Red 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-green 1972 GMC 4x4 LWB-White 1971 Cheyenne 10 LWB-Ochre 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Copper 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Black 1969 Custom 10 LWB-lt blue 1968 GMC 3/4 ton-green 1968 1/2 ton swb stepside-silver 1967 Chevrolet CST 10 LWB-green 1967 Chevrolet custom 20 LWB-Maroon

05-29-2004, 09:37 AM	#9
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	i have had a lincoln for about 7-8 years have been very happy with it, hobart and miller are also good quality machines. the quality of the welds has alot more to do with the operater than the brand IMO __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

05-29-2004, 09:50 AM	#10
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,594	I bought a miller matic 135 about 6 month's ago and love it still learning the basic's of welding but it has been a great little machine. I did upgrade to the steelmix and not the flux and it sure make's a nicer weld that is easier to clean up... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

05-29-2004, 03:03 AM	#2
Radke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seward Ne. Posts: 50	home depot has Campell Hasfeld welders they are made by lincoln might check those

05-29-2004, 03:30 AM	#4
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	I have a Miller 135 MIG welder, and I like it. The welder originally came with just the flux wire, that made to much spatter for me. I tried the CO2 bottle next, still to much spatter for clean welds. I now use the CO/ARGON mix bottle and this has worked real well for my welding. I have built throttle plates for carburetors, weldded sheetmetal parts up for my project truck, and even built 3/8 inch plate brackets for a sheetmetal bending stand. It is very versatile. I have had it for 7 years and I have approximately $600.00 invested in the welder and the cart.

05-29-2004, 08:07 AM	#5
JBARTGMC-10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: JENKS OK Posts: 34	i use miller at work for steel welding they are the best in my 18 years of being a welder i allways had the least down time with miller welders and i have used them all. right now i use a cobra-maitc alum. welder for tank trailer repair and wish they would buy me a miller they run much better

05-29-2004, 08:31 AM	#6
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	I just bought the Lincoln 135 PRO, and I love it! I actually bought the 135T first, and traded it in for the pro. Great peice of equpment! And it was well worth the extra money. The place I bought it from says the smaller Millers are just not ass good as the smaller Lincolns. He said the he gets the Millers back all the time as apposed to never getting the Lincolns back. He did say, if you were looking to get a bigger unit, Miller makes a good peice. But for what you want, get the 135 PRO, it's worth the extra $$$.

05-29-2004, 09:19 AM	#7
Slams_58 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2002 Location: I let ya know as soon as I know Posts: 3,593	We just have a cheapo Arcweld brand mig/fluxcore welder that cost $300. It can weld anything up to 1/8" plate. I used it for all my patch panels and my flatbed

05-29-2004, 10:02 AM	#11
Radke Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seward Ne. Posts: 50	The factory at lincoln told me that they build all campbell welders .

05-29-2004, 10:07 AM	#12
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	While Millers are my favorite (I use a DeltaWeld 452 at work), the Miller and Hobart machines are essentially the same (like Chevrolet and GMC trucks). My Millermatic 210 is identical to the Hobart Ironman 210, just a different color and decal. I have a little experience with the Lincolns, but didn't like the performance of them. But that was a larger welder on 1/2" to 1" thick material. For auto sheet metal and smaller stuff, the little 135's from Miller or Hobart are excellent machines! FWIW, Harbor Freight has the Hobart 135's on sell every once in awhile for around $430. My personal favorites??? __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE Last edited by glock35ipsc; 05-29-2004 at 10:10 AM.

05-29-2004, 12:25 PM	#13
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	If your going to buy a milermatic 135 you may as well get a hobart same parts different color case . same warranty Its not called the true blue 3 year but it does carry the same warranty I got my little hobart handler 135 for like 379 at TSC Its a good little welder I have never used a lincoln 135 so i cant compare but a friend of mine had one of those 115s from home depot it wasnt anywhere near the welder that this hobart is. O and this hobart came with all the stuff for gas as well.

05-29-2004, 12:38 PM	#15
1972C10 Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 2,686	Yeah Tractor Supply Company Its been a year or two since i got it but the prices havent gone up that much.. I was up there the other day eyeballing that hobart IRON MAN 210 for 999.99 I asked about layaway they said if i put down 10% and pay it off within 3 months so I may be boasting about my new 210 amp soon

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05-29-2004, 01:19 PM	#19
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,761	I got a Lincoln through these folks http://www.weldingmart.com/ It was refurbished by Lincoln and warrentied by Lincoln as a new machine. Mine is a 110V welder also and it has served me fine for the last year. The cost of the refurbished unit was less than half the new ones. I believe with shipping I paid around $350 for the Mig setup outfit. Everything but the tank...I think mine is an SP-100T or SP-110. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

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72dually Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 687	Im considering the new hobart 140, they claim up to 1/4", and still house plug friendly Ebay's got them for $424-434 from the same guy w/free shipping, it does'nt appear that he's sold any yet, he's still fishing the market, so I'll be patient till he drops the price to around $400, than I'll drop the hammer on one Last edited by 72dually; 05-29-2004 at 04:58 PM.

05-29-2004, 08:05 PM	#22
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	My vote goes to the Miller as well. I have a Miller Cricket ... purchased it in the late 80's ... still works like a champ. I believe it is the predecessor to the smaller Miller Matic. It is designed for material up to 1/4" thick. I upgraded to the gas option and back when I purchased mine, you couldn't touch a smaller unit like this with the gas option for under a grand! So I can't really reply on the price ... but my Miller has seen it's fair share of use and abuse and is still tickin' like a Timex!

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